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07-27-2022, 06:45 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2022, 07:15 PM by Rivercityjeff.)
Howdy as just_john suggested I'm bringing my build to the horde!
Expectations
To be built over the next 3 months, I like sales, mil discounts, and group buys.
200-300 yard shots in low light from a prone or sitting position (overwatch of a stream bed)
Sub 1 MOA w/ 123g. Hornady ELD
Parts on hand:
Aero Enhanced upper
Aero 15" Quantum Handguard
Aero 6.5 BCG
Lower on hand
Milled 80 (excellent fit with Aero Enhanced .223 Wylde AR Performance 3R)
Larue 2 stage trigger
Magpul PRS Lite
Aero buffer kit
Which parts would be the best value?
1. 18" Barrel w/ 5R rifling $250 max (Just missed a Wilson Combat sale)
2. Gas block (do I really need an adjustable or standard?)
3. Muzzle/flash/comp.? Leaning towards a linear comp to preserve hearing and straight line recoil for follow up.
4. What else?
Optics
Thinking Leupold 3HD Firedot or maybe ATN...
Thoughts? Advice? Fire away!
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07-27-2022, 08:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2022, 08:25 PM by VASCAR2.)
I have a Faxon Group Buy Monster barrel and I really like it. BFT at 6.5 Outfitters has a great hunting barrel from Green Mountain manufactured to his specifications. These barrels have been really good, especially for the price. Take a look at BFTs gas blocks and muzzle devices. You can spend more money on a higher quality but if this is for hunting these make a very handy rifle.
I also have a 18 Faxon Group Buy Monster barrel from BFT plus a 12 Green Mountain 6.5 Grendel barrel. If I werent satisfied I wouldnt mention them. I cant tell any difference in quality between the Faxon and Green Mountain barrels. These are rack grade barrels but they get good reviews.
With BFTs barrels you wont need an adjustable gas block unless your going to use a suppressor.
https://www.sixfiveoutfitters.com/product/65g-16/
Here is a picture of my 12 Green Mountain Monster barrel build
Here is a picture of my 18 Faxon Monster Barrel next to my 16 Faxon Monster barrel. I really like the balance and profile used on these barrels.
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Vascar2 is dead on as usual
BFT is our leader
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65outfitters as good as it gets.
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07-27-2022, 10:45 PM
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CJW Wrote:Vascar2 is dead on as usual
BFT is our leader
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65outfitters as good as it gets.
IF only 65outfitters had the 18 Faxon Monster Barrel in stock...maybe group buy?
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07-28-2022, 12:43 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2022, 12:50 PM by VASCAR2.)
With all the supply issues they are currently on order. I can understand if you want an 18 barrel but for hunting a 16 barrel can be used from 300 yards and in quite effectively. Here is the velocity difference I got for an 18 Brownells SS 5R 1:8 twist barrel and my J&T 16 1:9 twist CMV barrel with a Magnettospeed chronograph.
Im not trying to convince you to buy the 16 barrel but to let you see the difference in velocity for different barrel lengths. I enjoyed building AR-15s and I have several. I was just trying to give you another option. There are more barrel options today than ten to twelve years ago for AR-15 barrels in 6.5 Grendel.
120 Grain HP BT PPU
16" 2392
18" 2455
20" 2480
24" 2559
110 grain FMJ PPU
16" 2510
18" 2570
20" 2614
24" 2683
123 grain A-Max Hornady
16" 2419
18" 2464
20" 2505
24" 2568
123 Grain SST Hornady
16" 2430
18" 2493
20" 2511
24" 2583
Hand Load 123 Grain Nosler CC, 31.0 grains CFE223, CCI 450
16" 2449
18" 2471
20" 2526
24" 2619
100 Grain FMJ Wolf
16" 2507
18" 2571
20" 2615
24" 2695
Hand Load 107 Grain SMK 28.5 IMR8208XBR, CCI 41 Hornady cases.
20" 2658
24" 2729
Here is the difference between the 18 barrel compared to the shorter 16 barrel which was slower with every load.
120 grain PPU HP BT
63 FPS difference
110 grain PPU FMJ
60 FPS difference
123 grain A-Max
45 FPS difference
123 grain SST
63 FPS difference
Hand load 123 grain Nosler CC
27 FPS difference
Wolf 100 grain FMJ Steel cased
64 FPS difference
Difference between 20 and 18 barrel 6.5 Grendel
120 grain PPU HP BT
25 FPS difference
110 grain PPU FMJ
44 FPS
123 grain A-Max
41 FPS difference
123 grain SST
18 FPS
Hand load 123 grain Nosler CC
55 FPS difference
Wolf 100 grain FMJ Steel Cased
44 FPS difference
Difference between 24" and 20"
PPU 120 grain HB BT
79 FPS
PPU 110 grain FMJ
69 FPS
123 grain A-Max, Hornady
63 FPS
123 grain SST, Hornady
72 FPS
Hand Load 123 grain Nosler CC, 31.0 grains CFE223, CCI 450
93 FPS
100 grain FMJ Wolf
80 FPS
Hand Load 107 grain SMK 28.5 grains IMR8208XBR, CCI 41
71 FPS
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07-28-2022, 02:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2022, 10:01 PM by Rivercityjeff.)
Thanks VASCAR2! I appreciate the input. Maybe I see the 18" as a good compromise and have over thought the barrel? Good thing I'm not in a hurry.
I should also add, I like ringing steel.
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07-28-2022, 10:00 PM
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VASCAR2
What kind of accuracy are you getting out of the SixFive 16" and 18" barrels?
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I answered your PM Rivercityjeff.