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Coyote and Hog rig for 200-300 yard overwatch upper build - Rivercityjeff - 07-27-2022

Howdy as just_john suggested I'm bringing my build to the horde!

Expectations
To be built over the next 3 months, I like sales, mil discounts, and group buys.
200-300 yard shots in low light from a prone or sitting position (overwatch of a stream bed)
Sub 1 MOA w/ 123g. Hornady ELD

Parts on hand:
Aero Enhanced upper
Aero 15" Quantum Handguard
Aero 6.5 BCG

Lower on hand
Milled 80 (excellent fit with Aero Enhanced .223 Wylde AR Performance 3R)
Larue 2 stage trigger
Magpul PRS Lite
Aero buffer kit

Which parts would be the best value?
1. 18" Barrel w/ 5R rifling $250 max (Just missed a Wilson Combat sale)
2. Gas block (do I really need an adjustable or standard?)
3. Muzzle/flash/comp.? Leaning towards a linear comp to preserve hearing and straight line recoil for follow up.
4. What else?

Optics
Thinking Leupold 3HD Firedot or maybe ATN...


Thoughts? Advice? Fire away!

Coyote and Hog rig for 200-300 yard overwatch upper build - VASCAR2 - 07-27-2022

I have a Faxon Group Buy Monster barrel and I really like it. BFT at 6.5 Outfitters has a great hunting barrel from Green Mountain manufactured to his specifications. These barrels have been really good, especially for the price. Take a look at BFT’s gas blocks and muzzle devices. You can spend more money on a higher quality but if this is for hunting these make a very handy rifle.


I also have a 18” Faxon Group Buy Monster barrel from BFT plus a 12” Green Mountain 6.5 Grendel barrel. If I weren’t satisfied I wouldn’t mention them. I can’t tell any difference in quality between the Faxon and Green Mountain barrels. These are rack grade barrels but they get good reviews.


With BFT’s barrels you won’t need an adjustable gas block unless your going to use a suppressor.

https://www.sixfiveoutfitters.com/product/65g-16/


Here is a picture of my 12” Green Mountain Monster barrel build


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Here is a picture of my 18” Faxon Monster Barrel next to my 16” Faxon Monster barrel. I really like the balance and profile used on these barrels.


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Coyote and Hog rig for 200-300 yard overwatch upper build - CJW - 07-27-2022

Vascar2 is dead on as usual……


BFT is our leader……..

65outfitters as good as it gets.

Coyote and Hog rig for 200-300 yard overwatch upper build - Rivercityjeff - 07-27-2022

CJW Wrote:Vascar2 is dead on as usual……


BFT is our leader……..

65outfitters as good as it gets.

IF only 65outfitters had the 18” Faxon Monster Barrel in stock...maybe group buy?

Coyote and Hog rig for 200-300 yard overwatch upper build - VASCAR2 - 07-28-2022

With all the supply issues they are currently on order. I can understand if you want an 18” barrel but for hunting a 16” barrel can be used from 300 yards and in quite effectively. Here is the velocity difference I got for an 18” Brownell’s SS 5R 1:8 twist barrel and my J&T 16” 1:9 twist CMV barrel with a Magnettospeed chronograph.


I’m not trying to convince you to buy the 16” barrel but to let you see the difference in velocity for different barrel lengths. I enjoyed building AR-15’s and I have several. I was just trying to give you another option. There are more barrel options today than ten to twelve years ago for AR-15 barrels in 6.5 Grendel.

120 Grain HP BT PPU

16" 2392

18" 2455

20" 2480

24" 2559

110 grain FMJ PPU

16" 2510

18" 2570

20" 2614

24" 2683

123 grain A-Max Hornady

16" 2419

18" 2464

20" 2505

24" 2568

123 Grain SST Hornady

16" 2430

18" 2493

20" 2511

24" 2583

Hand Load 123 Grain Nosler CC, 31.0 grains CFE223, CCI 450

16" 2449

18" 2471

20" 2526

24" 2619

100 Grain FMJ Wolf

16" 2507

18" 2571

20" 2615

24" 2695

Hand Load 107 Grain SMK 28.5 IMR8208XBR, CCI 41 Hornady cases.

20" 2658

24" 2729

Here is the difference between the 18” barrel compared to the shorter 16” barrel which was slower with every load.

120 grain PPU HP BT

63 FPS difference

110 grain PPU FMJ

60 FPS difference

123 grain A-Max

45 FPS difference

123 grain SST

63 FPS difference

Hand load 123 grain Nosler CC

27 FPS difference

Wolf 100 grain FMJ Steel cased

64 FPS difference


Difference between 20” and 18” barrel 6.5 Grendel

120 grain PPU HP BT

25 FPS difference

110 grain PPU FMJ

44 FPS

123 grain A-Max

41 FPS difference

123 grain SST

18 FPS

Hand load 123 grain Nosler CC

55 FPS difference

Wolf 100 grain FMJ Steel Cased

44 FPS difference

Difference between 24" and 20"

PPU 120 grain HB BT
79 FPS

PPU 110 grain FMJ
69 FPS

123 grain A-Max, Hornady
63 FPS

123 grain SST, Hornady
72 FPS

Hand Load 123 grain Nosler CC, 31.0 grains CFE223, CCI 450
93 FPS

100 grain FMJ Wolf
80 FPS

Hand Load 107 grain SMK 28.5 grains IMR8208XBR, CCI 41
71 FPS

Coyote and Hog rig for 200-300 yard overwatch upper build - Rivercityjeff - 07-28-2022

Thanks VASCAR2! I appreciate the input. Maybe I see the 18" as a good compromise and have over thought the barrel? Good thing I'm not in a hurry.

I should also add, I like ringing steel.

Coyote and Hog rig for 200-300 yard overwatch upper build - Rivercityjeff - 07-28-2022

VASCAR2
What kind of accuracy are you getting out of the SixFive 16" and 18" barrels?

Coyote and Hog rig for 200-300 yard overwatch upper build - VASCAR2 - 07-29-2022

I answered your PM Rivercityjeff.