Serbia adopting 6.5 Grendel as main military cartridge

[Wanderson]

BTW if it hasn’t been mentioned elsewhere, Zastava is forming Zastava Arms USA to import their own wares over here rather than deal with an importer. So if they clear all the paperwork hurdles, there’s a possibility of seeing Zastava 6.5 Grendel AKs stateside.

Palmetto State Armory has also been dropping hints of a 6.5 Grendel AK as well. They just rolled out a 9mm AK and claim after their 5.56 offering that 6.5 may be next.

[Kilco]

My Grendel Vepr is a truly fine rifle. Just as accurate as my 5.45.

Barrel diameter measures at .262... it's the oddest thing... it requires it's own load work-ups.

Factort ammo runs 50-75fos faster than any of my ARs.

[A5BLASTER]

BTW if it hasn’t been mentioned elsewhere, Zastava is forming Zastava Arms USA to import their own wares over here rather than deal with an importer. So if they clear all the paperwork hurdles, there’s a possibility of seeing Zastava 6.5 Grendel AKs stateside.

Palmetto State Armory has also been dropping hints of a 6.5 Grendel AK as well. They just rolled out a 9mm AK and claim after their 5.56 offering that 6.5 may be next.

I would rather see them bring out the grendel on the old mini bolt action they use to build for Remington.

Nothing against how the ak works are anything but it's just butt ugly.

[LtDan]

I have a Zastava Mini in 762/39 it's a nice looking rifle but the extractor is junk. I tried to contact the factory as I'm half Serbian trying to get a replacement didn't happen. So it sits in my safe with less than a hundred rounds through it.

[A5BLASTER]

I have a Zastava Mini in 762/39 it's a nice looking rifle but the extractor is junk. I tried to contact the factory as I'm half Serbian trying to get a replacement didn't happen. So it sits in my safe with less than a hundred rounds through it.

I bet there is a shop out there that could recut and profile it for a mini m16 extractor

[Tog7125]

Why are we debating this retarded idea again? It's like people refuse to understand that there are way more duty positions than Joe Tentpeg rifleman, first-term soldier, with maybe 400 rounds of trigger time under his belt tops. Most have never fired a rifle before they joined the military, and the ones that have bring baggage that takes even more time to re-train, and it isn't happening in a normal unit qualification schedule.

Now you really want to screw him over with a cartridge that recoils more, requires a heavier rifle, comes off target quickly, and prevents him from being able to carry a sustainable basic load that will get him through chance contacts, his mission, and back to the PZ or through the wire. What morons sit around and think this garbage up?

As to the .260 Rem., those who know don't talk.

I love reading your posts. No one who has seen the elephant would suggest carrying a heavier round and less ammo. Utter stupidity.

[Sticks]

My Grendel Vepr is a truly fine rifle. Just as accurate as my 5.45.

Barrel diameter measures at .262... it's the oddest thing... it requires it's own load work-ups.

Factort ammo runs 50-75fos faster than any of my ARs.

This one should shoot Wolf Ammo well.

[A5BLASTER]

So what was the end result on this. Did they adopt it? Only small special forces units? Full size feild units?

Did they drop it? What's the word on the street?

[VASCAR2]

I believe the Zastava AK 6.5 Grendel variant in Serbia is still in the works. There are new videos on youtube from Serbia showing the Zastava but they are no English translations. Most of the information I saw was posted on another Forum by Batob from Montenegro. He hasn’t been on the other forum in quite a few months. He had an issue with the other forum because they locked one of his threads on a different topic without consulting him.

With Zastava Arms USA there is better chance of a 6.5 Grendel AK with decent capacity magazines actually making it on the US market.


Here is an example of one video released in the last few months. There are several videos on the Serbian defense forces.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0n76OzPlhQc

[A5BLASTER]

I believe the Zastava AK 6.5 Grendel variant in Serbia is still in the works. There are new videos on youtube from Serbia showing the Zastava but they are no English translations. Most of the information I saw was posted on another Forum by Batob from Montenegro. He hasn’t been on the other forum in quite a few months. He had an issue with the other forum because they locked one of his threads on a different topic without consulting him.

With Zastava Arms USA there is better chance of a 6.5 Grendel AK with decent capacity magazines actually making it on the US market.


Here is an example of one video released in the last few months. There are several videos on the Serbian defense forces.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0n76OzPlhQc

Thanks for the reply sir.

I should have expressed my question better. What I was asking was about the topic of this thread. Did Serbia adopt the grendel? Widespread ? Small special forces units? Or did they drop it and stay with what they already had?

[Sticks]

I'd have sworn that Stanc posted that Serbia went and ordered up several thousand SCARs, seeming to have dropped the Grendel chase.

[NugginFutz]

I'd have sworn that Stanc posted that Serbia went and ordered up several thousand SCARs, seeming to have dropped the Grendel chase.

Not quite - he posted a link to a tangent story which mentions a Serbian Brigade receiving an issue of SCAR rifles in 5.56. Stna merely speculated, but without any dots to connect.

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthrea...post203314

[A5BLASTER]

I'd have sworn that Stanc posted that Serbia went and ordered up several thousand SCARs, seeming to have dropped the Grendel chase.

Don't know sticks. I'm sure the answer is posted a few pages back but didn't feel like reading back throw all of it lol being lazy lol.

Just thought maybe there was some new info on this floating around.

As for as zastava America goes me personally I would rather see them do up a bolt action then a ak grendel, just personal preference really, I'm not much on the ak platform, had a few over the years never like them really.

[VASCAR2]

A new picture of the Zastava M-17 was just posted on the AK Forum. Looks like Serbian forces are still interested in the 6.5 Grendel variant. There are three members in this photo with the M-17 which uses a unique looking 6.5 Grendel magazine.

[A5BLASTER]

A new picture of the Zastava M-17 was just posted on the AK Forum. Looks like Serbian forces are still interested in the 6.5 Grendel variant. There are three members in this photo with the M-17 which uses a unique looking 6.5 Grendel magazine.

Looks like the guy at the far right has night vision optic on his weapon as well. It's interesting for sure.

[VASCAR2]

Another recent photo of M-17 with 6.5 Grendel and quick change 7.62x39 barrel and magazines.

[PXranger]

Not quite - he posted a link to a tangent story which mentions a Serbian Brigade receiving an issue of SCAR rifles in 5.56. Stna merely speculated, but without any dots to connect.

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthrea...post203314

I recall reading an article that mentioned the Grendel would only be used in DMR rifles on Serbian service, with a possibility of a SAW later. I can’t recall where I read the article now.

[stanc]

Found an article dated 16 April 2019. No info that the Horde seeks, but a couple of new M17 photos:


https://translate.google.com/translate?h...rev=search

[montana]

Not a Grendel cartridge but a proprietary 6.5×38.7 mm round https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019...ult-rifle/

[VASCAR2]

Wikipedia list the case length for the 6.5 Grendel Case as 38.7 mm so instead of calling it 6.5x39 I think PPU is just using a more descriptive name without calling it 6.5 Grendel. Whether PPU has upped the pressure for the Serb military is yet to be disclosed. All the previous information indicated the performance was very similar to the 6.5 Grendel.