Chris Kyle dead.

[BjornF16]

I find it interesting that so many of you are willing to blame the medication, just like anti-gun people are willing to blame the gun!

The reason he was on the medication is BECAUSE he had a serious mental illness. Blaming the medication for acting out is EXACTLY akin to blaming a gun for shooting.

How many of you have spent any time at a mental health facility where people refuse their medications? How many of you have spent any time at a prison, where 50% of the people incarcerated have some type of mental illness and were NOT taking any medication when they commintted their criminal acts? I'm at a juvenile detention facility weekly. 60-70% of these kids are victims of documented abuse and have PTSD, Depression, Anxiety, Schizophrenia, or BiPolar disease. NOT A SINGLE ONE WAS ON TREATMENT MEDICATION WHEN THEY COMMITTED THEIR FELONIES! NOT ONE!

Its a sad day when supposedly educated people refuse to acknowledge that double blind studies, the only way a medication can be tested scientifically, are valid.

These arguments against medication are EXACTLY the same arguments that anti-gunners use against guns! How can you not see the illogical progression you are following? As I have stated before, CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION!

Our mental health system sucks, but it isn't because of the medication, guys! Its because we have far too few providers for the number of people needing help! That's why a Navy Seal and his buddy were trying to help out a Marine diagnosed with mental illness, because there simply weren't enough conventional resources to help. I seriously doubt that Chris Kyle or Chad Littlefield had ANY training in dealing with an individual with severe PTSD, and yet, being the good guys they were, they tried.

But blaming the medication he was taking is akin to blaming the rifle he used.

Bill, I just can't accept the analogy or your 100% confidence in meds.

My brother had a break down while enrolled in Rice University in the late 60's. He was in Navy ROTC. Everything seemed normal, and then a break down within days of a ROTC "party". There was a suspicion that he was a casualty of the CIAs LSD program (MKUltra). I haven't found any evidence it was conducted at Rice University or not...

I do know that on some of the meds, he was fine. On some meds, he was an absolute menace.

I'm sure you don't intend to omit, but not everyone reacts the same to all of the meds. Some people will have adverse side effects to include undesired behaviors and/or a lack of ability to process right from wrong.

I'm not suggesting that all meds are EVIL...I get that some people need to be on meds. But I firmly believe that our society is over medicated and over vaccinated.

I agree our mental health system is broke...I'll thank the ACLU for that one (patients rights). Sure, reform was needed but we ended up with no mental health institutions to speak of when we really needed to fix the abuses.

You can't ignore that the overwhelming majority of "mass murder" shootings were perpetrated teenagers or young adults who were on psychotropic meds...that has to be a huge RED FLAG.

I'm with LRRPF52...I don't fully trust the "double blind" studies. I've done Operations Research...data can be manipulated.