What you guys think about J&T?

[pinzgauer]

One look and you can tell its a budget build but still first time out shot close to an inch for $650.

If the "budget build" aspect means plain A2 furniture, service trigger, etc, that's what you get. But side by side with many other rack grade (armalite, bushy, dpms, etc) they are virtually identical, and in some cases better. Properly staked BCG, Forged, correct height front sight base, etc. Shaw 4140 barrel. Forged 7075 upper/lower. "Contract" fire control parts.

Want M4 ramps? Option. 4250 mil-spec barrel (in 5.56). Option. Free float tube. Option. YHM/DD/whoever rail... option. Geiselle/JP/whoever trigger? Option. FA LMT BCG.... Option Mil-spec buffer tube... Option

In other words, you get a basic A2 or A3 build unless you chose to upgrade. But that basic build is as good quality or better as rifles/uppers selling for $200 more. It's not a LBC, or other custom build. Or even an AA, Sabre, etc. But compared to many well known brands JT does more right than they do. (IE: The infamous AR quality chart)

But they are accurate, reliable, solid rifles. I've never seen one not work flawlessly. All the carping and problems people talk about on this forum and others about making their high dollar builds work just has not been an issue with any of 9-10 JT builds I'm personally aware of.

Not that JT needs defending....Some will turn their nose up no matter what. Others will recognize them for what they are, just a good value entry point for grendel.

I just had to comment on the "budget build".... to some that means sub-standard parts. When for the JT it means basic but solid AR. Lotta bang for the buck, and nothing to be embarrassed about. And very likely to shoot very well. Ours have for sure!

My most recent build is an LMT M4 lower, AA SS Barrel/bolt, AA upper, GI Contract FA BC and remaining upper parts. YHM sight/gas block. MOE green furniture. It's a solid carbine middy build, sub-moa and improving. I can point out slight differences between the LMT lower and the JT lower side by side. None that effect reliability/accuracy. I'd expect differences, the LMT lower was more money, and full up mil-spec. But side by side, my JT bull barrel/free float will out shoot it. All day long. With a "kit" that cost less than many grendel barrels do.

So don't be embarrassed by your budget build. Shoot it, and you'll likely be surprised. I view them as the "rat rods" of the AR world. Sleepers, and it's always fun to be underestimated but overdeliver!