03-16-2021, 03:26 PM
I find that a company with a BILLION DOLLARS of Back Log on Orders & Record-Breaking Profits cannot meet demand while toilet tissue companies can is absolutely missing the plot! What you are seeing here if you put the effort into it is an economic battle on who is going to control for the time being the ammunition supply! It is PURELY ECONOMICS on who can corner this market!
The notion that Vista outdoors or Olin / Winchester, is this inept in warehousing, modernization and expansion, could be true look at Remington. But if the case is that they are inept, how are they this bad at what they do and still have record breaking profits unlike Remington?? https://www.alloutdoor.com/2020/11/16/vi...n-profits/
Is the record breaking profits due to them holding back orders on a BILLION dollars they are already made without having to fulfil other orders especially to other ammunition manufacturers? If it did wouldn't the be the story instead of hoarding or they haven't modernized since 1993?
Would it not make sense to put their competitors in the ammo business, out of business? How would a BILLION dollars help in procuring resources even more cheaply than they procured them in the past? Can their be a WAR between Vista and Olin/Winchester? Olin / Winchester, not only sells bullets, brass ammo, powder and primers, but also owns the mines for their products? Seems for DECADES there has been an ongoing battle between Vista and Winchester to get military contracts would it not help Vista to be in the position of buying up cheap resources like Olin / Winchester does, to get bids to by low balling their offers? bhttps://military.wikia.org/wiki/Olin_Corporation
The case for raw materials makes little sense, for instance, 90% of lead is procured by battery makers are batteries priced 10x's more than they are worth, are their battery shortages? Does Apple and LG, have trouble making phones due to the lead shortage? The top 3 purchasers of brass are the automotive, music and the meatal working industries. Are Cars, trumpets and door knobs impossible to buy or in short supply? Never mind other ingredients that comprise smokeless powders and primers that are also available in other manufacturing items such as soap, paint and thermometers, etc.! The argument should not be they are hard to get but who can get them cheaper!
In the real world having been shorted a BILLION dollars worth of supply in the largest buying trend ever would have had C.E.O.'s, heads rolling because even warehousing a 1/3 of your product would mean $333 million more dollars in your account! It makes no sense other that they are holding back or slowing their production down on purpose. It makes great business sense!
The notion that Vista outdoors or Olin / Winchester, is this inept in warehousing, modernization and expansion, could be true look at Remington. But if the case is that they are inept, how are they this bad at what they do and still have record breaking profits unlike Remington?? https://www.alloutdoor.com/2020/11/16/vi...n-profits/
Is the record breaking profits due to them holding back orders on a BILLION dollars they are already made without having to fulfil other orders especially to other ammunition manufacturers? If it did wouldn't the be the story instead of hoarding or they haven't modernized since 1993?
Would it not make sense to put their competitors in the ammo business, out of business? How would a BILLION dollars help in procuring resources even more cheaply than they procured them in the past? Can their be a WAR between Vista and Olin/Winchester? Olin / Winchester, not only sells bullets, brass ammo, powder and primers, but also owns the mines for their products? Seems for DECADES there has been an ongoing battle between Vista and Winchester to get military contracts would it not help Vista to be in the position of buying up cheap resources like Olin / Winchester does, to get bids to by low balling their offers? bhttps://military.wikia.org/wiki/Olin_Corporation
The case for raw materials makes little sense, for instance, 90% of lead is procured by battery makers are batteries priced 10x's more than they are worth, are their battery shortages? Does Apple and LG, have trouble making phones due to the lead shortage? The top 3 purchasers of brass are the automotive, music and the meatal working industries. Are Cars, trumpets and door knobs impossible to buy or in short supply? Never mind other ingredients that comprise smokeless powders and primers that are also available in other manufacturing items such as soap, paint and thermometers, etc.! The argument should not be they are hard to get but who can get them cheaper!
In the real world having been shorted a BILLION dollars worth of supply in the largest buying trend ever would have had C.E.O.'s, heads rolling because even warehousing a 1/3 of your product would mean $333 million more dollars in your account! It makes no sense other that they are holding back or slowing their production down on purpose. It makes great business sense!

