11-26-2018, 07:08 PM
I guess I can't read, I never saw anything about your distaste for Mark or DD? I'm not sure why you'd be upset with Mark on his 2nd Ammd stance, he's as pro liberty as any person I know. He spends big bucks each year of his own money to keep lawyers in lawsuits defending it.
My statement about the parts being inferrior to getting the upper assembled from LaRue (regardless of the abrasive and abrupt personality) are about your budget, not necessarily meaning it can't be built easily or of quality. I've built several Grendels, and all were easily "tuned"; the weakest link in each was without doubt the mags. I can't touch, can not even get close to the quality of the LaRue parts if I was going to buy everything separately, even on sale. Not even remotely. They run as well as any 5.56 I've shot. My complete LaRue Grendel rifle runs so smooth the 3 gun guys I was next to and let shoot it were jealous because their 5.56 race guns they have MUCH more investment in don't even compare. (these guys have some time behind the trigger at national events, so I was glad they were both impressed)
For your budget, I can't see how you'd fail with the LaRue. I'm not trying to argue with you, allow me to lay it out.
1 - UU kit (assembled free through xmas), in black, in an 18" Grendel - $850 to your door. Comes with - the trigger you want (MBT), barrel, GB/tube, the Billet upper, Billet handguard in the length of your choice - 10.5 or 13", muzzle device, LaRueBCG/LaRue Bolt, standard CH, RAT rifle stock, LR pistol grip, and a LaRue LPK. All you need to do to finish your rifle is buy a separate stripped lower, build it as you've described, and you're complete. Oh, btw, it comes in an ARbuildbox.com box
2 - You use your order number to buy two things:
a) the suppressor. Yes it's heavy, you'll be over your 7 lb limit using it. But you have a suppressor, from a company as reputable as LaRue, that doesn't fail to perform. And it's $650 stamp included. And for the cost of 99 bucks each, you can use it on your other rifles/pistols as well. (hard to beat this utility, especially if you're oggling a suppressor eventually; and consider the consequence of losing the political majority - they're already discussing raising the stamp tax, which I can assure you the Repubes would cave on...
b) a LaRue stripped Billet lower for $150.
Neither of these things come with the UU - they are just addons that allow you the choice later if you so choose. I don't know how much later, as these are rather informal deals offered to purchasers of the UU by Mark himself.
$850+650+150 = $1650. Put your optic atop your rifle and go to work. Plus (here's a big one) Mark puts on a sub MOA guarantee. https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ult...upper-kit/
This is the best way with the time I've got to lay it out. I really do think you're overlooking something great if it's a persona issue rather than a best bang for your dollar issue. I've never met Mark, but I've seen his personality in action on video when I got curious once and tried to understand why folks dislike him. He reminds me of Trump. Abrasive, but everything you want when the chips are down.
So, I just weighed my rifle. Complete Grendel, 5 slot Pic rail, 13" KM handguard, Magpul PRS gen 1 FDE/rifle extension/aluminum spacer, Elander 25 round mag (empty), LaRue keymod grip caps (15), BCM QD adapter. 8lbs, 14.3 oz. Put on a lighter carbine stock setup(this one's known to be heavy, and has the extra weight of the LR rifle extension), and take off the grip caps, and you're probably very close to your 7lb goal. I don't think youll be under it with optic, but I'd carry an extra 8 oz for what I gained for it. Personal O of course, but there it is.
Good luck! Light rifles aren't cheap, and good rifles that are light are even less so.
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My statement about the parts being inferrior to getting the upper assembled from LaRue (regardless of the abrasive and abrupt personality) are about your budget, not necessarily meaning it can't be built easily or of quality. I've built several Grendels, and all were easily "tuned"; the weakest link in each was without doubt the mags. I can't touch, can not even get close to the quality of the LaRue parts if I was going to buy everything separately, even on sale. Not even remotely. They run as well as any 5.56 I've shot. My complete LaRue Grendel rifle runs so smooth the 3 gun guys I was next to and let shoot it were jealous because their 5.56 race guns they have MUCH more investment in don't even compare. (these guys have some time behind the trigger at national events, so I was glad they were both impressed)
For your budget, I can't see how you'd fail with the LaRue. I'm not trying to argue with you, allow me to lay it out.
1 - UU kit (assembled free through xmas), in black, in an 18" Grendel - $850 to your door. Comes with - the trigger you want (MBT), barrel, GB/tube, the Billet upper, Billet handguard in the length of your choice - 10.5 or 13", muzzle device, LaRueBCG/LaRue Bolt, standard CH, RAT rifle stock, LR pistol grip, and a LaRue LPK. All you need to do to finish your rifle is buy a separate stripped lower, build it as you've described, and you're complete. Oh, btw, it comes in an ARbuildbox.com box
2 - You use your order number to buy two things:
a) the suppressor. Yes it's heavy, you'll be over your 7 lb limit using it. But you have a suppressor, from a company as reputable as LaRue, that doesn't fail to perform. And it's $650 stamp included. And for the cost of 99 bucks each, you can use it on your other rifles/pistols as well. (hard to beat this utility, especially if you're oggling a suppressor eventually; and consider the consequence of losing the political majority - they're already discussing raising the stamp tax, which I can assure you the Repubes would cave on...
b) a LaRue stripped Billet lower for $150.
Neither of these things come with the UU - they are just addons that allow you the choice later if you so choose. I don't know how much later, as these are rather informal deals offered to purchasers of the UU by Mark himself.
$850+650+150 = $1650. Put your optic atop your rifle and go to work. Plus (here's a big one) Mark puts on a sub MOA guarantee. https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ult...upper-kit/
This is the best way with the time I've got to lay it out. I really do think you're overlooking something great if it's a persona issue rather than a best bang for your dollar issue. I've never met Mark, but I've seen his personality in action on video when I got curious once and tried to understand why folks dislike him. He reminds me of Trump. Abrasive, but everything you want when the chips are down.
So, I just weighed my rifle. Complete Grendel, 5 slot Pic rail, 13" KM handguard, Magpul PRS gen 1 FDE/rifle extension/aluminum spacer, Elander 25 round mag (empty), LaRue keymod grip caps (15), BCM QD adapter. 8lbs, 14.3 oz. Put on a lighter carbine stock setup(this one's known to be heavy, and has the extra weight of the LR rifle extension), and take off the grip caps, and you're probably very close to your 7lb goal. I don't think youll be under it with optic, but I'd carry an extra 8 oz for what I gained for it. Personal O of course, but there it is.
Good luck! Light rifles aren't cheap, and good rifles that are light are even less so.
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