07-06-2016, 03:40 PM
montana Wrote:Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness are not just words but a belief in the natural state all people were intended to live.Intended by who/what?
Certainly not by the Christian God, who cursed humans and the ground on which they walk, condemning all of mankind to a life of pain and suffering. (See Genesis 3)
Nor by nature, which doesn't care how people live.
Quote:This is a belief. With no belief there is no good or evil just the application of force.Precisely.
Quote:Let me help a non believer such as yourself understand. The founding fathers believed in this natural state"belief" but recognized those who didn't which we believers call evil. The Constitution was a document which was to limit power"force" by division of power"force". The bill of rights was the power "force" given to citizens to complete the division of power"force". George Washington stated government is like fire, a dangerous servant and fearful master. This is why the Second Amendment as all of the other Amendments are in the Bill of Rights. It is the division of power to protect the natural state"belief" all people had the right to live.And yet, neither the 2nd Amendment, nor any of the others in the Bill of Rights, have prevented the enactment of multitudes of laws which, by any rational standards, clearly infringe, abridge, and restrict our so-called "unalienable rights."
Quote:With out belief there is no such thing as good or evil so there is no such thing as evil men in your opinion?Correct. "Good" and "evil" exist only in the mind of the beholder. For example, Americans call ISIS evil. And at the same, ISIS calls us evil.