07-04-2016, 10:24 PM
montana Wrote:Here's what you wrote in post #49:stanc Wrote:Now, that is not a totally unreasonable statement. However, what you said is that not mentioning "tyrannical government" is the same thing as saying a "tyrannical government is a free state." Big difference.No Stanc I said a free state is the opposite of a tyrannical state or government my emphasis.
"You stated the 2nd amendment says nothing about a tyrannical government yet it clearly states the 'security of a free state' thus you must consider a tyrannical government a free state..."
montana Wrote:In post #52 I said:Quote:=stanc]The only thing it says in regard to the reason for having a militia is security of the State. It does not say that waging war on the Federal government is a reason for having a militia.I said tyrannical government not federal government. Talk about using erroneous meaning to what I say.
"[The 2A] does not say the purpose of a militia is for the people to be able to wage war against the government."
In post #54 you replied:
"It states exactly that..."
So, which government were you referring to if not the federal government?
montana Wrote:So what does it mean to you Stanc, the second Amendment protects the right of the government?? people?? to have a free State ?? Explain your meaning.I don't interpret it. I go with what it says:
What do you see Stanc? The right of the people to be in a militia, military,?? and to do what with their right to own and bear arms arms ??? Just how do you interpret the Second amendment?
They thought that militias were needed for defense of the country, so -- since they expected militia members to provide their own individual weapons -- they sought to guarantee that those able-bodied, white males who were required to serve in militias, would be able to own the weapons mandated for militia duty.
montana Wrote:You failed to produce any historical evidence there was division with the interpretation and creation of the second amendment. I have produced many in the founders own words described in the Federalist papers which supports the meaning of the second amendment I prescribe to. I'm still waiting for your evidence or is this historical evidence I cannot see because of the invisible ink you were talking about?Meh. It's been a while since I read it, and I have neither the time nor the interest to go searching for it again.
