https://65grendel.com/ Fri, 25 Sep 2026 01:47:04 +0000 MyBB https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=25785 Mon, 10 Jul 2023 09:33:22 -0600 LRRPF52]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=25785 https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24924 Sat, 10 Sep 2022 20:26:37 -0600 montana]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24924
Now you will know if your parts are in spec and within tolerance..https://thegatalog.com/]]>
Now you will know if your parts are in spec and within tolerance..https://thegatalog.com/]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24744 Sun, 24 Jul 2022 19:01:37 -0600 Scouttracker]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24744 School of the American Rifle.
Its about 14 minutes long, but worth watching , it's called.
FAIL ZERO AR-15 BCG AUTOPSY]]> School of the American Rifle.
Its about 14 minutes long, but worth watching , it's called.
FAIL ZERO AR-15 BCG AUTOPSY]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24634 Sat, 18 Jun 2022 08:17:12 -0600 CJW]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24634
I want to learn more about the AR platform. I’ve built lowers and uppers that have shot well, but it has really been a hell of a struggle for me.

My lowers look as if they have been put together with a 2 lb claw hammer, a bench grinder & JB Weld.

It’s time for me to really learn to do it right, what tools to buy, best components to buy etc.

YouTube has been a great help but I need hands on training.

Basically this is what I want to do, I want to show up with a box of parts and walk away with a new AR & every tool that the pros use to do the job.

Can you recommend a school for me?

Live Big,

Chuck]]>
I want to learn more about the AR platform. I’ve built lowers and uppers that have shot well, but it has really been a hell of a struggle for me.

My lowers look as if they have been put together with a 2 lb claw hammer, a bench grinder & JB Weld.

It’s time for me to really learn to do it right, what tools to buy, best components to buy etc.

YouTube has been a great help but I need hands on training.

Basically this is what I want to do, I want to show up with a box of parts and walk away with a new AR & every tool that the pros use to do the job.

Can you recommend a school for me?

Live Big,

Chuck]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24505 Mon, 02 May 2022 10:34:24 -0600 jasper2408]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24505
I am going to go thru this as if you have never used QT so bear with me here:

1. Set up your first cartridge load in QuickLoad(QL), as QL has to be open for QuickTarget(QT) to work and transfer data.

2. Go to QT and click on the button that says "Receive Data from Quickload". This will open up the Graph window and plot your first cartridge.

2a. In QT Unlimited, to transfer the data from QL, you use the button that has the arrow pointing to it. Everything else is the same as QT.

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3. Right click on the graph of the first plot and click on "Save as Reference". This locks the first plot so you can add the next cartridge plot from QL.

4. Go back to QL and set up your next cartridge.

5. Go back to QT and click on "Receive Data from Quickload" again. This will add your second plot to the first. I have been able to add 3 different cartridges to the plot so far. I do not know how many you can plot but I know 3 for sure. If you want to add a 3rd cartridge or load then right click on the graph again and choose "Set Reference" again and it will keep the 2 cartridges plotted. Then you go back to QL and make another cartridge and then go back to QT and start at Step 2 again.

6. When you are done and want to make a different plot then right click on the plot graph again and select "Delete Reference". The graph will leave the last data that is in the "Table Setup" window. If you want to start a new graph just go back to QL and setup another load and cartridge and then go back to QT and start at Step 2 again. This will start a new plotted graph.

I am going to include how to change temperature and elevation in case anyone hasn't done that before and wants to know how.

On the below Table Graph window in QT is a button labeled "New ATMO Data". Click on that button and the window to the right will pop up. There are 4 radio buttons to choose from and I use the bottom selection so that it will use my temp and elevation in the calculations. The other settings in the popup are pretty self explantory. Then hit "Apply and Exit" and it will calculate the graph with your settings. You can change the temp to either higher or lower and it will update the plotted cartridges with the new data you entered.

There is another option under "Copy To" at the top of the main window that lets you put it in Excel. I don't have Excel so it wouldn't let me use that option. I wanted to modify the lines on the graph to make them more ledgeable. I did use the "Copy To>Clipboard" and it copies the graph to my Calc program or to the Writer program in LibreOffice. Doesn't let you modify anything though.

That should just about do it. Hope this makes sense.

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I am going to go thru this as if you have never used QT so bear with me here:

1. Set up your first cartridge load in QuickLoad(QL), as QL has to be open for QuickTarget(QT) to work and transfer data.

2. Go to QT and click on the button that says "Receive Data from Quickload". This will open up the Graph window and plot your first cartridge.

2a. In QT Unlimited, to transfer the data from QL, you use the button that has the arrow pointing to it. Everything else is the same as QT.

[url=][/url]

3. Right click on the graph of the first plot and click on "Save as Reference". This locks the first plot so you can add the next cartridge plot from QL.

4. Go back to QL and set up your next cartridge.

5. Go back to QT and click on "Receive Data from Quickload" again. This will add your second plot to the first. I have been able to add 3 different cartridges to the plot so far. I do not know how many you can plot but I know 3 for sure. If you want to add a 3rd cartridge or load then right click on the graph again and choose "Set Reference" again and it will keep the 2 cartridges plotted. Then you go back to QL and make another cartridge and then go back to QT and start at Step 2 again.

6. When you are done and want to make a different plot then right click on the plot graph again and select "Delete Reference". The graph will leave the last data that is in the "Table Setup" window. If you want to start a new graph just go back to QL and setup another load and cartridge and then go back to QT and start at Step 2 again. This will start a new plotted graph.

I am going to include how to change temperature and elevation in case anyone hasn't done that before and wants to know how.

On the below Table Graph window in QT is a button labeled "New ATMO Data". Click on that button and the window to the right will pop up. There are 4 radio buttons to choose from and I use the bottom selection so that it will use my temp and elevation in the calculations. The other settings in the popup are pretty self explantory. Then hit "Apply and Exit" and it will calculate the graph with your settings. You can change the temp to either higher or lower and it will update the plotted cartridges with the new data you entered.

There is another option under "Copy To" at the top of the main window that lets you put it in Excel. I don't have Excel so it wouldn't let me use that option. I wanted to modify the lines on the graph to make them more ledgeable. I did use the "Copy To>Clipboard" and it copies the graph to my Calc program or to the Writer program in LibreOffice. Doesn't let you modify anything though.

That should just about do it. Hope this makes sense.

[url=][/url]]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24428 Sat, 02 Apr 2022 08:31:04 -0600 GrendelGoof]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24428
Building my Howa mini HB Grendel and reading a lot on suppressors.

I see a lot of discussion about back pressure. I know that’s a concern with the ARs, but is it something I need to consider with a bolt gun?

Pretty set on the Dead Air Nomad Ti. Mainly precision and hunting applications, so rapid fire overheating isn’t a concern.]]>
Building my Howa mini HB Grendel and reading a lot on suppressors.

I see a lot of discussion about back pressure. I know that’s a concern with the ARs, but is it something I need to consider with a bolt gun?

Pretty set on the Dead Air Nomad Ti. Mainly precision and hunting applications, so rapid fire overheating isn’t a concern.]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24403 Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:29:39 -0600 jasper2408]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=24403
This is the W-20B Hardness testing tool and it has a 6mm(.2362) shaft so 6.5 case necks should fit on it without modification. This one is about $375.00(shipped) and it is a cheap one but does the job.



Here is the video if you are interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF0YmmeEJK4

Update: Shows in more detail how he is checking the neck hardness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=but_JGdqx4c

Just thought this was a way to check for sure if you are getting your cases annealed correctly.

Edit: The annealing machine that the fella uses is one that he built himself. It is a pretty neat piece of equipment.]]>
This is the W-20B Hardness testing tool and it has a 6mm(.2362) shaft so 6.5 case necks should fit on it without modification. This one is about $375.00(shipped) and it is a cheap one but does the job.



Here is the video if you are interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF0YmmeEJK4

Update: Shows in more detail how he is checking the neck hardness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=but_JGdqx4c

Just thought this was a way to check for sure if you are getting your cases annealed correctly.

Edit: The annealing machine that the fella uses is one that he built himself. It is a pretty neat piece of equipment.]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=23677 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 08:46:14 -0600 jasper2408]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=23677
Just thought someone else might gain from the info presented in the video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2xn9tNQtfs]]>
Just thought someone else might gain from the info presented in the video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2xn9tNQtfs]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=23644 Fri, 20 Aug 2021 19:06:13 -0600 grayfox]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=23644 Several of them have what looks like small "tread marks" around the outside of the case, down close to the case head. What does this mean, and are they ok to shoot?

I'll paste in a picture of this.
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  img-0447-small.jpg (Size: 40.18 KB / Downloads: 51) ]]> Several of them have what looks like small "tread marks" around the outside of the case, down close to the case head. What does this mean, and are they ok to shoot?

I'll paste in a picture of this.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]18127[/ATTACH]

  img-0447-small.jpg (Size: 40.18 KB / Downloads: 51) ]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=23539 Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:04:46 -0600 Micke]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=23539
Since then, I bought an Odin Works 6.5 Grendel barrel - 20" DMR. I built an upper for that with info I found here and from Bill Alexander and Joe Carlos.

I'm a DIY amateur gunsmith (on my stuff only) and have been for 40 plus years.

I traveled to the NRA Whittington Center today and had 5 to test and sight in.

The Odin Works barrel is not nearly broken in yet but is exceeding my expectations and it is doing it with factory ammo (Hornady Black 123gr ELD-M)

So thank you Odin Works! It's the best AR barrel I own!

The other new rock star today was a Volquartsen Black Mamba 22LR. After only 20 rounds, it is already crazy accurate with SK match ammo!


The sight-in range at NRAWC is down for rebuild indefinitely so they are allowing centerfire sight in on the 100 yard rimfire range. That's where I shot today.]]>
Since then, I bought an Odin Works 6.5 Grendel barrel - 20" DMR. I built an upper for that with info I found here and from Bill Alexander and Joe Carlos.

I'm a DIY amateur gunsmith (on my stuff only) and have been for 40 plus years.

I traveled to the NRA Whittington Center today and had 5 to test and sight in.

The Odin Works barrel is not nearly broken in yet but is exceeding my expectations and it is doing it with factory ammo (Hornady Black 123gr ELD-M)

So thank you Odin Works! It's the best AR barrel I own!

The other new rock star today was a Volquartsen Black Mamba 22LR. After only 20 rounds, it is already crazy accurate with SK match ammo!


The sight-in range at NRAWC is down for rebuild indefinitely so they are allowing centerfire sight in on the 100 yard rimfire range. That's where I shot today.]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=23536 Tue, 13 Jul 2021 06:00:57 -0600 323Heiko]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=23536
I spoke with a few people at the range and no one thought this was normal. I also tried several different types of ammo with the same results. So i need help with henry h001 sights.

I'm wondering should I contact Henry or is this a normal occurrence?]]>
I spoke with a few people at the range and no one thought this was normal. I also tried several different types of ammo with the same results. So i need help with henry h001 sights.

I'm wondering should I contact Henry or is this a normal occurrence?]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=22774 Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:32:43 -0700 Rick2001]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=22774 I am in the process of swapping a Grendel hunter 22" barrel with a 20" Bartlein.
I was thinking to reuse the G.H. 19" free-floating handguard but then I remembered that the Bartlein comes with a.875 adjustable gas block.
Checking the current setup I have noticed that the .750 gas block almost touches the handguard so I assume that the .875 will not fit.
So, now I am looking for advice to find a free-floating handguard that will clear the new gas block, the size should be between 16" and 18".
If the handguard has a barrel nut that needs no indexing is a plus
Thank you in advance for the help

Current situation:

]]> I am in the process of swapping a Grendel hunter 22" barrel with a 20" Bartlein.
I was thinking to reuse the G.H. 19" free-floating handguard but then I remembered that the Bartlein comes with a.875 adjustable gas block.
Checking the current setup I have noticed that the .750 gas block almost touches the handguard so I assume that the .875 will not fit.
So, now I am looking for advice to find a free-floating handguard that will clear the new gas block, the size should be between 16" and 18".
If the handguard has a barrel nut that needs no indexing is a plus
Thank you in advance for the help

Current situation:

]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=22734 Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:00:07 -0700 Fess]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=22734
I knew that the blast from a braked 50 BMG could do damage, but had not realized that you could lose hearing from the concussive blast of a typical firearm even if you have sufficient hearing protection. Apparently the concussive force is transmitted though the facial bones to the tiny bones in the ear. I would think that this is becoming more of an issue as there is increasing use of very short barrels and muzzle brakes. The author recommends a sound suppressor, but anything done to reduce the concussive blast, including having a longer barrel or just shooting without a muzzle brake helps.

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2021...ring-loss/]]>
I knew that the blast from a braked 50 BMG could do damage, but had not realized that you could lose hearing from the concussive blast of a typical firearm even if you have sufficient hearing protection. Apparently the concussive force is transmitted though the facial bones to the tiny bones in the ear. I would think that this is becoming more of an issue as there is increasing use of very short barrels and muzzle brakes. The author recommends a sound suppressor, but anything done to reduce the concussive blast, including having a longer barrel or just shooting without a muzzle brake helps.

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2021...ring-loss/]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=22578 Sun, 27 Dec 2020 20:46:56 -0700 High_n_Dry]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=22578
I'm more of the 2nd school of thought. In my other guns, I clean. the barrel after a couple hundred rounds with a couple patches with Boretech and then run a bore snake through. Boretech does carbon and copper and I can see plenty of blue after the carbon is out, so I know I'm leaving copper in the bore.

The reason I built the Grendel is for hunting, but also to try my hand at long range shooting. In this context, I would like to maintain accuracy. I'm leaning towards doing the same regimen as I do for my other rifles. The part I'm a little stuck on is that many people say to leave the copper until you see accuracy problems and then clean out the copper. If you believe in the equilibrium theory, it seems counterintuitive that you would want to get out all the copper out and start at square one again.]]>
I'm more of the 2nd school of thought. In my other guns, I clean. the barrel after a couple hundred rounds with a couple patches with Boretech and then run a bore snake through. Boretech does carbon and copper and I can see plenty of blue after the carbon is out, so I know I'm leaving copper in the bore.

The reason I built the Grendel is for hunting, but also to try my hand at long range shooting. In this context, I would like to maintain accuracy. I'm leaning towards doing the same regimen as I do for my other rifles. The part I'm a little stuck on is that many people say to leave the copper until you see accuracy problems and then clean out the copper. If you believe in the equilibrium theory, it seems counterintuitive that you would want to get out all the copper out and start at square one again.]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=21925 Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:47:31 -0600 nekshot]]> https://65grendel.com/showthread.php?tid=21925