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I find it curious that during the current riots that there are very few reports of citizens using their 2A rights to protect themselves or their property from rioters. Even the police seem to be standing by letting it happen, likely at orders from the mayor/governor
Question one. Preferred method of stopping rioters when the police are absent?
Question two. tips, advise, techniques when rioters are headed your way?
Question three. What preparations to take?
No worries for me (yet) just curios what the collective wisdom of the Horde is in our current situation.
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This is how Portland treats people who use their 2A right to protect themselves from violent rioters.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/vi...ob-n383093
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Did government credibility die of Covid or with Covid?
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06-01-2020, 10:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2020, 10:52 AM by Wheelhorse.)
From the ATF to FFL Holders in Some Areas:
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/as-civ...e-holders/
" Lock it all up immediately. Right now. Lock up firearms, ammunition, and any related items as best as possible. Lock up or otherwise secure your records. Secure your premises.
Dont be there. It isnt worth it. Stuff can be replaced, should your shop get looted. Your life and your family come first. So get out of dodge before things go sideways, if things go sideways."
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Those riots have taken place in liberal states, where people have little to no gun rights.
I live in Florida, in a rural area.Im not gonna play the lets pretend game,Because I know protesters would never go to my neighborhood.Therefore there would be no chance of looting Or rioting around here. Anyone who came into my neighborhood to loot and riot would met with firepower.
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FLshooter Wrote:Those riots have taken place in liberal states, where people have little to no gun rights.
I live in Florida, in a rural area.Im not gonna play the lets pretend game,Because I know protesters would never go to my neighborhood.Therefore there would be no chance of looting Or rioting around here. Anyone who came into my neighborhood to loot and riot would met with firepower.
Same here, expect my state has the castle doctoren signed into state law.
It says if I am in fear of my are my family are friends health and life I have the legal right to use deadly force till I feel the threat is gone. My state considers my vehicle and my yard as part of my home under the castle doctrine law.
So basicly you come do some stupid stuff like trying to loot my home, your going to meet Mr. T and his brother S@W m model 357, and they will be backed up by their best friend m9 40 cal and remmy 870 12 gauge.
I'm not going to play the lock up and run game, this is mine you want it, you better bring enough to take it.
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06-01-2020, 03:57 PM
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A5BLASTER Wrote:Same here, expect my state has the castle doctoren signed into state law.
It says if I am in fear of my are my family are friends health and life I have the legal right to use deadly force till I feel the threat is gone. My state considers my vehicle and my yard as part of my home under the castle doctrine law.
So basicly you come do some stupid stuff like trying to loot my home, your going to meet Mr. T and his brother S@W m model 357, and they will be backed up by their best friend m9 40 cal and remmy 870 12 gauge.
I'm not going to play the lock up and run game, this is mine you want it, you better bring enough to take it.
And if youre white they will arrest you and press charges.
Period.
You may be vindicated in the end but the system is not your friend.
Google John Reiple pawn shop owner.
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Grendelshooter Wrote:And if youre white they will arrest you and press charges.
Period.
You may be vindicated in the end but the system is not your friend.
Google John Reiple pawn shop owner.
Lmao. You clearly have never lived in northwest Louisiana.
I promise you I wouldn't get arrested.
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FLshooter Wrote:Those riots have taken place in liberal states, where people have little to no gun rights.
I am fairly certain the ATF didn't just contact folks in 'liberal states' because I know they contacted one of my dealers in Dallas. I am sure they contacted, as the article said, those FFLs in locations that match certain metrics and other criteria, such as places with riots and large populations, regardless of the political leanings as of the last election.
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06-02-2020, 02:18 AM
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Good one montana! There are a few more success stories on fox news today.
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06-02-2020, 01:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2020, 01:21 PM by Wethepeople.)
I have always subscribed to the non-agression principle. I expect the same from family members. Having said that and understanding the seriousness of how messed up a large segment of society is today, the 2nd is more important than ever.
I am probably preaching to the choir here. I'm not built to cut and run in defending friends, family and property. Fortunately, I live over 4 hours from any major cities and most people here are like minded. I expect things to get much worse and am prepared should the worst case arise. If leaders don't get things under control, I don't know how I can depend on anyone but fellow like minded gun owners.
Good luck to you all living in metro areas or their burbs. I am willing to help others anyway I can and have no qualms about doing so.
Meantime, I am praying the insanity subsides and leaving next week for what could well be my last fishing trip for sometime.
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so far here in the part of kentucky i live in its quiet. no riots and everyone actually understands whats going on
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06-03-2020, 12:02 AM
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This story is pinging my radar on false flag operations that may occur. https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2020/06/...d-uniform/
Closer to home: https://www.ksl.com/article/46760053/2-m...police-say
My concern is that a far leftist, some unhinged extremist, an agent of a terror network etc. will fire on protesters and that will be used as a reason to disarm responsible gun owners.
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At my location there is less than a one percent chance of riot or looter threat. I can only control the property I own and live on. My family and I stay ready. The high awareness level is needed when we go out in public and thats where the percent of threat jumps up. I try to avoid problem areas and problems but am aware of my surroundings wherever I go. Current events this year have an impact on the 2A so I try to follow them closely. Thanks to all for posting up here
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montana Wrote:https://www.theblaze.com/news/looters-ph...F1AllM6vSM
Good on him, dang fine job, sadly he didn't get the rest of the trash.
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I like what was said: "he also sent a clear message, saying "looting has consequences."
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A5BLASTER Wrote:Same here, expect my state has the castle doctoren signed into state law.
It says if I am in fear of my are my family are friends health and life I have the legal right to use deadly force till I feel the threat is gone. My state considers my vehicle and my yard as part of my home under the castle doctrine law.
So basicly you come do some stupid stuff like trying to loot my home, your going to meet Mr. T and his brother S@W m model 357, and they will be backed up by their best friend m9 40 cal and remmy 870 12 gauge.
I'm not going to play the lock up and run game, this is mine you want it, you better bring enough to take it. Im thinking the Castle doctrine is good in all 50 states.If someone breaks into your home and you feel your life is threatened,you are allowed to use deadly force. The way I see it ,if someone breaks into my house knowing Im home, they probably are up to kill me. So, they will take 30 from my suppressed blackout .
Ive heard of folks in Louisiana and Texas shooting through the windshield of their truck to kill someone stealing it. And they got away with it!That would not fly here in Florida.Here, you certainly cant shoot someone because they are in your yard.The stand your ground law doesnt protect Floridians like it used to.
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If you are attacked in a liberal controlled area watch out! https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-mexico-ma...owd-statue
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