The AR-15 style rifle listed: the same weapon used in Sunday's Waffle House shooting

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

The AR-15 style rifle listed was the same weapon used in Sunday's Waffle House shooting ---

(https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/22/us/waffle...index.html)

And, re Waffle House's "No Firearms" policy:


(http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...no-thanks/)

Massive: Waffle House Shooter's Guns Had Been Seized, Gun Control FAILED
(https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/shoote...ol-failed/)

[1075 tech]

Saw that. They seized the weapons from him in Illinois, and eventually released them to his father on the "promise" that he'd keep them secure and away from the son (shooter). Father has admitted that he returned them to the son.

The kid had, from reports, obvious psychological issues for a while.

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

And, considering that the Waffle House "No Firearms" policy left the customers and store personnel defenseless, in this sad story, it would be fitting if the suspect is apprehended by a law-abiding armed citizen --- and, the story featured in the American Rifleman The Armed Citizen files.

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And, considering that the Waffle House "No Firearms" policy left the customers and store personnel defenseless, in this sad story, it would be fitting if the suspect is apprehended by a law-abiding armed citizen --- and, the story featured in the American Rifleman The Armed Citizen files.

Wishful thinking. He was arrested by police.

Although such a citizen's arrest could have happened during the incident. A customer reportedly managed to wrestle the rifle from the shooter, but then immediately tossed it over the counter instead of using it to apprehend or shoot the killer.

[Tex Nomex]

Well, when you're being stalked by Taylor Swift, you're gonna need some fire power....

Another unbalanced individual left by his family and the authorities to play out his hand to an evil end.

Support carry rights and protect yourself and yours from the madness.

[Double Naught Spy]

And, considering that the Waffle House "No Firearms" policy left the customers and store personnel defenseless, in this sad story, it would be fitting if the suspect is apprehended by a law-abiding armed citizen --- and, the story featured in the American Rifleman The Armed Citizen files.

I don't think what you said is what you meant to say because obviously the gunman was attacked and disarmed by one of the "defenseless" people in Waffle House who defended himself and others - James Shaw, Jr.

If you consider yourself to be defenseless because you don't have a gun, then you really need to reevaluate your self defense preparations.

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The gunman has been captured.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/waffle-...g-manhunt/

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjAwPwz69sQ

[Crracer712]

Sounds like more outstanding police work/justice system.

[TomSawyerNW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjAwPwz69sQ

Nothing less than amazing.

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

Sounds like more outstanding police work/justice system.

Bodycam footage shows cops did not get out of the car at any point when responding to teenager Kyle Plush's 911 cries for help as he was crushed to death in the back of his SUV


(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...Plush.html)

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Nothing less than amazing.

How so?

[TomSawyerNW]

How so?

Figure it out.

[LR1955]

Guys:

OK -- the police were probably incompetent, and the guys father needs some prison time if he gave the weapons back to his son.

Either tell me what this has to do with the 2A or this will be another 2A thread that ends.

LR55

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Figure it out.

Okay, I'll try.

Different departments have different policies for terminating vehicle pursuits. The officers in the report you quoted followed their department's SOP, so I see no issue there.

Because the stolen car was equipped with GPS, the police correctly figured it would be located. I see no issue with their reasoning.

When the stolen car was later located at an apartment complex, the police had no way of knowing if the thief was a resident, or lived elsewhere and abandoned the car there.

So, I guess you're faulting the police for not having psychic powers?

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Bodycam footage shows cops did not get out of the car at any point when responding to teenager Kyle Plush's 911 cries for help as he was crushed to death in the back of his SUV

Sad story, but not a 2A issue.

[LR1955]

Someone tell me how this thread directly ties into the 2A please.

LR55

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

And, considering that the Waffle House "No Firearms" policy left the customers and store personnel defenseless, . . .

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/02/g...orida-law/

http://westernfreepress.com/the-gun-free...t-of-2018/

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And, considering that the Waffle House "No Firearms" policy left the customers and store personnel defenseless, . . .

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/02/g...orida-law/

"It is certainly true that a customer who disarms in compliance with a store’s ban on guns does so voluntarily: The store is not compelling them to shop there, and they are free to shop at alternative stores without such a policy. Further, the very fact that someone voluntarily disarmed in order to shop in a 'gun-free zone' strongly suggests that they themselves did not believe they would face any meaningful threat there. It naturally follows that if they had no reasonable expectation of an attack, the store couldn’t have had one, either."

If you dislike the "No Firearms" policy of Waffle House, there's a very simple way to avoid being unarmed: Don't go there to eat.

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Someone tell me how this thread directly ties into the 2A please.

There doesn't appear to be such a tie.

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

"It is certainly true that a customer who disarms in compliance with a store’s ban on guns does so voluntarily: The store is not compelling them to shop there, and they are free to shop at alternative stores without such a policy. Further, the very fact that someone voluntarily disarmed in order to shop in a 'gun-free zone' strongly suggests that they themselves did not believe they would face any meaningful threat there. It naturally follows that if they had no reasonable expectation of an attack, the store couldn’t have had one, either."

If you dislike the "No Firearms" policy of Waffle House, there's a very simple way to avoid being unarmed: Don't go there to eat.