LaRue Tactical 6.5 Grendel SUURG

[ahillock]

11.5" barrel with the SURG brake is 'pin and welded' to make it 16". Seems like a solid upper for $1596 if one is interested in a 11.5" 6.5 Grendel. Or am I wrong?

[video=youtube_share;z9C0AcDua94]https://youtu.be/z9C0AcDua94[/video]


https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ult...suurg-kit/

[AppalachianGunSlinger]

I’d love to have one. The video doesn’t do justice for the changes they made in the 2.0. Plus this is Larue first public offering of a Valkyrie Chambering. Very interested in this and love how he slips it out just after Xmas after my wife got me a grendelrifle from them. If I did have a credit card it would be for these types of things. Hell half tempted to get one just to get in on the 20% savings. Easily pays for the one tax stamp on this integral. Also like the fact how the suppressor was done to alleviate any damage to the suppressor once the pin and welded brake goes inside the body like some older designs to reduce length while increasing volume. I will be keeping an eye out on this. But it looks like Larue is the team with the winning formula right now. Well Noveske is doing some cool stuff too. Can never have too many ARs.. need to win the lottery and can buy to my hearts content. ARs are like legos for men, hella more expensive though.

[ahillock]

Surprised not more interest in this on here. Especially with how good the 6.5 Grendel is in SBR + suppressed as LRRPF52 has shown.

[Kswhitetails]

Oh, I'd bet there's more interest than is being shown on the board. Pretty sure more than one Horde member is dealing with mixed feelings about how we have been jerked around by the marketing of the Larue Grendel.

All that aside, there's no denying the absolute performance of Larue's stuff. If this floats your boat, and you can paddle the bill, send them an email. They'll be happy to take your money. ;D

[ahillock]

Oh, I'd bet there's more interest than is being shown on the board. Pretty sure more than one Horde member is dealing with mixed feelings about how we have been jerked around by the marketing of the Larue Grendel.

All that aside, there's no denying the absolute performance of Larue's stuff. If this floats your boat, and you can paddle the bill, send them an email. They'll be happy to take your money. ;D

Must have missed that. What mixed feelings about LaRue and their marketing?

[jurassic]

Must have missed that. What mixed feelings about LaRue and their marketing?

Yes, do tell.

[jonny rotton]

the timing was just right for me. i ordered one kit yesterday. now i cant wait to get it. how long is the wait to get a stamp approved?? i have been wanting one for a long time and this package was just tooooo good to pass on.

[Bigs28]

Nfatracker.com is a good place to get an estimate but just plan on it being your 2018 Christmas gift. If you get it early then congrats

[ahillock]

Nfatracker.com is a good place to get an estimate but just plan on it being your 2018 Christmas gift. If you get it early then congrats

My FFL says the time is down to 5-6 months now.

[bfk4lyfe]

Yes, do tell.

I'd be willing to bet some people who bought the complete 6.5G rifles feel a little cheated when the UU kits came out for several hundred dollars less a few months later.

[ahillock]

I'd be willing to bet some people who bought the complete 6.5G rifles feel a little cheated when the UU kits came out for several hundred dollars less a few months later.

Can't be upset about that. Stuff like that happens all the time. In technology. In clothing. You buy when you want to buy and think it is a good deal. Can't complain if prices drop or something else comes out after. That is weak sauce.

[jurassic]

I'd be willing to bet some people who bought the complete 6.5G rifles feel a little cheated when the UU kits came out for several hundred dollars less a few months later.

That would make sense, thanks.

[jonny rotton]

is this going to be a great package?? this is my first experience with larue tactical products. i hope its a good one

[Bigs28]

Yes jonny, it will be nice

[Kswhitetails]

I will admit this to be my personal opinion, and have not directly verified with anyone else. There were a couple things about the whole Grendel introduction that left a semi-sweet taste behind after what I had hoped would become one of those events that would have left the "blown away experience" feeling.

First was Mark's letter indicating small-run status of the initial offering. Something was going to be "special" about getting in on the ground floor. There were several things that initially you could only get if you ordered the complete rifle. First, the entire rifle was to be FTE Cerakoted in-house! Second, the included LT104 coated FDE in their shop to match. Third, the Tranquillo 7.62 suppressor discount of three hundred bucks. There was a cartridge discount if you wanted. There was an optic "discount" if you wanted it as well. All of these were originally introduced as rifle only features.

Then, suddenly you could get the UU kit with everything but the mount for less than half what the rifle cost. There was subtle dissent in the Larue fandom, and understandably so, this meant guys just spent another 1100 bucks minimum on the rifle; to get to own a lower, and an LT104 over the $896 upper kit that had everything the rifle did but these two items... Don't get me started on assembly...

But, you still had the suppressor discount, the 104, the 5.56 Barrel Cartridge (this right here is why I bought the rifle - seriously, an extra 18" barrel, bolt, brake, GB, tube, barrel nut and wrench for $250?), and the hat that says 6.5 Grendel owner on the back. But DAMN does this rifle shoot. Seriously, not just in accuracy, but every other metric with which you could measure a firearm. Smoothness, fit and function, small but significant design changes that make it a better, more attractive rifle... etc. You can read up on LRRPF52's reviews, seriously guys, these things are like Veyrons of the AR world. Alas, I digress -

OK so next comes the lower being made available to anyone with a PO number. For 200 bucks. Good deal. Should have stuck with the lower...

The next day, SUPPRESSORS FOR EVERYONE! Yay! Great, now the upper guys can know what I know, and for 800 bucks less! Good! The more Larue gets his stuff out for Grendel the better, these things make Grendel absolute gold.

But that 800 bucks stings. Of course there are a few around that feel a little like "weak sauce", but for me the weakest sauce around was feeling like I got shafted for buying the coolest rifle I'll probably ever own. It completely ruined the overall transaction.

Meh, to each their own. I was simply attempting to give an opinion about why this thread may not have taken off like the last few Larue threads. Maybe there are more than one of us that kind of figure we blew our load last fall on a "deal" from Larue, and are waiting around to see the other shoes drop before we jump in with starry-eyed excitement.

And thanks, I've been put in my place. Speaking for the board members here simply assuming their experience left them feeling like me was wrong, and I repent.

[AppalachianGunSlinger]

Sorry for your mixed feelings. But must say that I am very impressed by Larue and crew. Let’s say that I also wason the listfor a complete rifle over 2yewrs for my factory OBR. Though the popularity has increased and has the demand. I must admit that they have ramped up production and scaled to meet the demand while bring8ng everything including barrel production in house. All the while still bringing new products to the market as well as bring down wait times. The production rifle is still a hell of a rifle for 2k. Not only can you still do it with the gurantee of fit and finish plus even Zero from the factory, kind of unheard of today. But you cannot get the grendel kit and a matching optics mounts in FDE nor a scopefor a Discount. Neither can one get a deal on the TranQuilo in this platform unless you do the rifle. Of course demand was high for this rifle all the while with past events in politics that took Larue in a new direction that was never seen before. The looming ban of ar15s and Larue did everything they could to focus production on getting the registered lower in the hands of their customers, what came next where the upper kits. Many saw this and wherepleased so much in fact that they hammered hehawed begged prayed and all but chopped off an arm for Mark to release the upper kit. Mark saw this and knew it was good and from his throne he made the rifle upper available even in configurations not available before. But people still where not totally pleased and wanted options to have a matching lower mark again saw this and offered it to those in need. Many where pleased and mark and Larue where happy. But few could not get over how generous and value that is put into a complete rifle, with labor overhead and the extras and where dissapointed in still getting a mighty Mithril Hammer from Valhalla! You say 800 bucks stings but in reality it really does not when you include all the extras and compare to s8milar rifles from the likes of Noveske for another $500 premium on top of Larue’s offering. Or the ridiculousness of Wilson Combats pricing structure. But even with Wilson if I was invested in his product I would most likely want one of his ARs. I for one am extremely pleased by this offering and the quicker turn around times. My wifey got me one for Xmas and wil b happy as a lark when it comes in. But still don’t have the TranQuilo simply not offered in this package.

Now all that said he does offer the m110 upper kit which I am ask8ng for next Xmas. This kit does include an optics upgrade and the TranQuilo at a discount. I can tell you that the package she got was a bit more than $800 more like a bit over 1k when all said and done. Though less than the 2k, I wasnt and didn’t have to be first in line at which they do such as the SUURG kit offer a 20% first come first serve bonus besides the extra discounts. Plus for one who wants the ultimate in out of the box accuracy and reliability. IE like Mark intended they would go with the complete rifle. Now even those that have another Larue like my Larue OBR sbr 12.5. I wished long and hard long ago that there could be more uppers available for this registered lower and now there is! Really in the long run you have one hell of a rifle and spent your money well! I wouldn’t trade my Larues nor my Noveskes for anything in the world. My two favorite things. I do see Larue and Noveske as having the most winning formulas in a market stagnated by the many and without much development in new products. These two small companies continue to impress and innovate at a rate thre to four times that of the large corporations out there. I do see them on the forefront for a very long time in the top tier accurat type ARs along with Daniel Defense, and BCM. Dunno about colt though or many others. The slow down will kill them. Either they push out new revenue streams continue to innovate and invest and improve or they won’t be around. So go out there swallow that “bitter” pill with some sugar of a shooting sessions and be glad for what you have and be happy with your purchase. Really in the end it all evens out most of uscannot stick with just one. Myself hitting double digits now and have been taking it slow especially since Retirement from the Army.

[Sticks]

Larue Rifle package, Iphone.....SSDS.

I'd be willing to give Larue the benefit of the doubt, that they seriously did not expect the 6.5 Grendel to take off like it did when they offered the rifle.

Say you planned on doing a run of 500 of something, thinking that you would be a year getting them all sold, then wham, they are gone in a month. You'd be a fool not to get more made up. Enter the Ultimate Upper program.

The UU program was a bit of a farce also, giving you prices on each piece, but you had to select one of everything, period. They should have just left it with the last real option of assembly for a fee, and made the rest the a la carte without pricing since you were still going to be paying the $800.

Just my opinion. I did not get in on either, having blown my wad on a PF upper, and a 6 month long 12 week lead time...with constant nagging.

[AppalachianGunSlinger]

I have a feeling that the upper program will end up changing more later to be more ala cart or more customization. Plus could just be how the website is setup too as well as list8ng out each part you do get. I think and as said before that very few companies have found he winning formula as far as products in the oversturated ar market. Larue and Noveske have it. Where Larue needs to work on is improving the overall buying experience, lower wait times even more, and remove the even Julie said it best people who buy know there will be a wait. I was floored she said this, and not something they should be known for. Although I was one of the long waits on my sbr OBR.

[1911man]

KSwhitetails I really feel for you, and I think all of your points are valid. I dont think this rifle is a high end shooter though; at least mine isnt. I was patient and waited to buy the upper kit and the lower separate and I am still not so pleased with my purchase despite saving money over what you paid. I think Im about $1200 in my LaRue rifle and it is by far my worst shooting Grendel. Also, the upper and lower fit is ugly as hell and the Cerakote has already worn in a couple places. Compare it to my $700 Aero build that shoots way better and has a much better looking Cerakote and I am not very happy with my purchase. I dont really blame LaRue but I definitely bought into the hype of this rifle.

[Kswhitetails]

Something isn't right. Wonder if you need Larue involved, they guarantee sub-MOA or your money back. I'd get a conversation going.

Here's what I did by "accident" before I took it out to hunt.

We had some surprise time in the afternoon, and I headed up to rent a lane at the 100 yd indoor locally to check zero - my 104 and optic had been removed/fiddled with by several relatives over the TXG holiday, and all had been interested in the "removable scope". We got there around 1435 and were told all lanes were booked for the rest of the day. "Ive got one now, till three, want it?" Ok, I took it, hurry hurry hurry. All I need to do is confirm zero.

First shot, exactly where I put it before, for a 250-ish zero, and slightly left. I tend to pull right slightly when excited, so I zero about an inch left at 100. Just my personal experience and practice. Second two were lowered to remove a little elevation, I'm shooting for a 200 zero. Might be a bit low for that, but it works for a hunting zero. Two touching. Nice, ok, move over an inch and see if I can do it again. HURRY! Three (almost) touching. These were with Federal AE 120s because I forgot to load up a mag with my hunting rounds the Black. So, while I was confirming zero, my buddy was throwing some rounds of ELD-M in a mag. I pulled the target in and he walked up with the mag. He coughed, and asked what we were doing here...



The ELD-M is dissapointing. It won't group. It tends to string 2moa left and right, and 1 moa vertical. I'm pretty sure it's not me, I've been more carefully attempting to push these into some kind of good group, they are 60% the price of the Feds on the shelf.



So I know my barrel doesn't llike Hornady's ELD-M Black load as much as I would like, but it gets the job done when white tails are in order. I would't go past 300 with them though.

I am VERY interested in what the American Gunner does in it. Too bad there's no SW local anymore...