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Have a go at this list for next years CZ models. To bad there isn't a carbine model. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-con...-Final.pdf
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Great news! Will be a nice looker too with the flush bottom metal.
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CZ price sucks thou, but good on em, will be hard to be the Howa's accuracy
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I sent an e-mail to CZ three or four years ago asking them to chamber the 527 carbine in 6.5 Grendel. They actually replied but stated they didn't have the production capacity to add another caliber/cartridge. I guess their thinking lost sales opportunity by not having a 6.5 Grendel. Better late than never, but the 527 just seemed like a better gun in 6.5 Grendel than a 7.62X39.
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I think we'll see a Ruger American and Mossberg MVP in 6.5 Grendel in the near future too. 'Bout time!
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rabiddawg Wrote:Great news! Will be a nice looker too with the flush bottom metal.
if its anything like the other 527 models it will be a single stack DBM
going by the accuracy of the 223 and 222 models, I would guess the CZ is going to be more accurate than the howa mini in its plastic stock. I have the 7.62x39 and that thing is sub moa with factory steel case hornadys - the fact that you can actually bed the thing well into the timber stock makes and big difference in my opinion
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Nuthead I copied this from their sight.
Both of these chamberings feature newly-developed flush bottom metal, while the rest of the chamberings will gradually transition to flush bottom metal later in 2017. Extended 5-round magazines are fitted, with flush-fitting magazines in development.
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You gotta be kidding me!!. At last, a CZ factory offering! Now I wont be the only one in hunting camp with a CZ Grendel
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rabiddawg Wrote:Nuthead I copied this from their sight.
Both of these chamberings feature newly-developed flush bottom metal, while the rest of the chamberings will gradually transition to flush bottom metal later in 2017. Extended 5-round magazines are fitted, with flush-fitting magazines in development.
wow! thats good to know
I think a flush fitting bottom metal will win some new fans - the single stack mag stuck out right at the balance point of the rifle. Hope its a double stack 5 shotter!
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12-19-2016, 02:15 AM
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nuthead Wrote:going by the accuracy of the 223 and 222 models, I would guess the CZ is going to be more accurate than the howa mini in its plastic stock. I have the 7.62x39 and that thing is sub moa with factory steel case hornadys - the fact that you can actually bed the thing well into the timber stock makes and big difference in my opinion
For the price of a CZ, I can buy a stock from Boyds and have it bedded to my Howa Mini action.
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We've been asking for this for years. That's a welcome addition.
Those Bren 805 rifles and pistols are cool too.
The Scorpion is a fun little 9mm blaster, especially with the Shockwave brace and folder, suppressed. I'm making mag pouches for it.
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Dinny Wrote:For the price of a CZ, I can buy a stock from Boyds and have it bedded to my Howa Mini action.
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That's true... depends which action/ mag setup you prefer I guess.
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Goodness gracious this took CZ long enough. I believe that we'll have a few winners on their hands here.
Howa got their foot in the door first yet I still prefer product offered by CZ. Integral scope mounts, light weight, control round feed, and now chambered in the 6.5 Grendel, 300 BLK.
Curious how CZ Will do head to head agents the Howa. If price is a factor and historically it has been Howa may pull the lions share of this market. Either way a shooter will be a winner IMHO.
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Welp, unless Howa announces a mini action with a flush floorplate, looks like I'll be waiting a little longer and getting a CZ527 instead. Flush metal, longer barrel, and all round a classier rifle out of the box.
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Stevil Wrote:CZ price sucks thou, but good on em, will be hard to be the Howa's accuracy
this!!
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Anyone have a guesstimate on the weight of one? I am considering purchasing a bolt action in 6.5 G for a super lightweight mountain style rifle, but it needs to have a synthetic stock.
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12-19-2016, 08:17 PM
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Beerswimmer Wrote:Anyone have a guesstimate on the weight of one? I am considering purchasing a bolt action in 6.5 G for a super lightweight mountain style rifle, but it needs to have a synthetic stock.
It will be very close to 6.5lbs (the other cz 527 Americans with a 22 inch barrels are 6.4lbs) HS precision make a synthetic stock for them but I don't know how much that weighs.
The Howa mini with the 22inch barrel is about 5.7lbs - with a VX-3 4-14×40 cds, 20 moa rail and leupold rings mine weighs 7.4lbs. The barrel on mine seems slow though - I can only get 2540fps from it with 28.5gr of 8208 and a 123gr amax before seeing pressure signs? I might try backing the bullet further from the lands and stoking it up a little.
Accuracy is pretty good at 0.6 to 0.8moa after relieving the barrel channel. The trigger is too heavy for precision stuff though IMO - mine is getting lightened to 1.2lbs. Id be shocked if the CZ wasn't at least as accurate
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And lets not forget that over time, CZ tends to offer the same rifle with different stocks and barrel lengths. I'll bet in a couple of years we will have a choice of full stocked Bavarian Mountain rifle as well as a short barreled carbine. And CZs can have some nice wood also. This is truly a breakthrough for the Grendel.
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nuthead Wrote:It will be very close to 6.5lbs (the other cz 527 Americans with a 22 inch barrels are 6.4lbs) HS precision make a synthetic stock for them but I don't know how much that weighs.
The Howa mini with the 22inch barrel is about 5.7lbs - with a VX-3 4-14×40 cds, 20 moa rail and leupold rings mine weighs 7.4lbs. The barrel on mine seems slow though - I can only get 2540fps from it with 28.5gr of 8208 and a 123gr amax before seeing pressure signs? I might try backing the bullet further from the lands and stoking it up a little.
Accuracy is pretty good at 0.6 to 0.8moa after relieving the barrel channel. The trigger is too heavy for precision stuff though IMO - mine is getting lightened to 1.2lbs. Id be shocked if the CZ wasn't at least as accurate That is about what you should be seeing. Looking in Volume II, there are a lot of samples with almost the exact mv you are getting with 120-123gr class of bullets from 20" AR15 barrels.
If you want more speed without pushing over the working pressure, look at LVR and CFE223.
I would stick with 8208XBR in your case since it tends to be very accurate and less temp sensitive.
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Looks like I'll have another 6.5 G coming . Ive been eyeballing a 527 carbine in 7.62 x39 to rebarrel it into a 6.5 Grendel for a while . Now I can wait and shoot my Howa mini grendel until the CZ arrives . This is big news in the Grendel world . Maybe they will do a youth model too.
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