I just rec'd my 5 pack just a min. ago and I'll do a quick comparison.
The black finish is all good by me. To my standards the paint looks to be a black satin and not a gloss. Either way I could care less. I had a box of Hornady SSTs in my truck and loaded all rounds into the mag.
First thing I noticed compared to the C-Product (CP) mag is how the top round sits on the white follower. The round looks like a F-16 ready to take flight and that's a good thing. My CP mag holds the round at a more flat position. Some of the rounds on the CP mag even hit the front of the mag right at the case mouth and that's a bad thing.
Secondly with the 20 rounds installed in this new mag I can strip it clean and all the rounds are under even tension. That's a good thing. Not the case with the CP mag. As I strip a CP mag clean some of the rounds fall short of coming to the top of the mag. Actually I have had some rounds just completely fall out. Almost as if the spring isn't strong enough to push the round to the top of the mag which is a bad thing.
Thirdly (is that a word?) the spring seems stiffer. I don't have a CP mag to compare it to but I would bet the springs have more tension.
I plan to hunt Sat. night and I'll let you know my real world outcome.
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Just put my order in. I have had few problems with the older mags, after tweeking the feedlips but I have been running the
E-Lander 223 mags hard for a year and a half with no problems, so I expect these to be as good.
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Shivesy Wrote:I just rec'd my 5 pack just a min. ago and I'll do a quick comparison.
The black finish is all good by me. To my standards the paint looks to be a black satin and not a gloss. Either way I could care less. I had a box of Hornady SSTs in my truck and loaded all rounds into the mag.
First thing I noticed compared to the C-Product (CP) mag is how the top round sits on the white follower. The round looks like a F-16 ready to take flight and that's a good thing. My CP mag holds the round at a more flat position. Some of the rounds on the CP mag even hit the front of the mag right at the case mouth and that's a bad thing.
Secondly with the 20 rounds installed in this new mag I can strip it clean and all the rounds are under even tension. That's a good thing. Not the case with the CP mag. As I strip a CP mag clean some of the rounds fall short of coming to the top of the mag. Actually I have had some rounds just completely fall out. Almost as if the spring isn't strong enough to push the round to the top of the mag which is a bad thing.
Thirdly (is that a word?) the spring seems stiffer. I don't have a CP mag to compare it to but I would bet the springs have more tension.
I plan to hunt Sat. night and I'll let you know my real world outcome.
Thanks Shivesy, that's a good informative review. 
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well, just ordered 5 of these and i will go ahead and try out some of the steel case ammo if i ever get the chance. be a fool not to at least try it.
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All of this is exactly the same for me. Received mine yesterday and had the same experience. The rounds feed into the gun smoothly from 1 to 25 and popped out the same. Gonna have to hit it to see the oal on the inside. Seemed a hair smaller than the last ones I bought.
So total time from order to receiving was just over a week.
I wish they would have used a different color follower. I have a bunch of the 5.56 mags and they have white followers too.
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Well since it's white, can you color it with a marker?
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NordicG3K Wrote:I wish they would have used a different color follower. I have a bunch of the 5.56 mags and they have white followers too.
You have black, stainless steel, mags that have a white follower? All I have to do is pick these up and its obvious they aren't 5.56 mags! LOL!
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NordicG3K Wrote:I wish they would have used a different color follower. I have a bunch of the 5.56 mags and they have white followers too.
Lots of guys color PMAGS different colors with RIT dye.
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bwaites Wrote:You have black, stainless steel, mags that have a white follower? All I have to do is pick these up and its obvious they aren't 5.56 mags! LOL!
E-Lander has 556 black steel mags with white followers:
![[Image: 10043_240274.jpg]](https://www.themakogroup.com/ItemMedia/10043/10043_240274.jpg)
https://www.themakogroup.com/Detail.aspx...1&CAT=8705
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bwaites Wrote:You have black, stainless steel, mags that have a white follower? All I have to do is pick these up and its obvious they aren't 5.56 mags! LOL!
From the pics, I believe they do look the same as the Elander 5.56 mags.
Stainless? I thought they were regular steel? 
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Drifter Wrote:E-Lander has 556 black steel mags with white followers:
https://www.themakogroup.com/Detail.aspx...1&CAT=8705
my apologies! i'll trade my blu ones for white if someone wants to trade!
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UPDATE..on my hunt last night using these new mags. I loaded 3 of the mags full of factory Hornady 123 SST and headed out in hopes of blasting a few pigs. Right off the bat I spotted a sounder of 8 pigs and stalked to within about 70 yds. To make a long story short I ran off 17 rounds while trying to down as many as I could before they escaped into the wood line. I knew at that time these mags were different than what I have been using in the past, they never did jam the rounds. I never was able to find anymore pigs the rest of the night so needless to say I didn't shoot any more rounds. I am not 100% sold on these yet until I have more field experience but from the one time I was able to put them to use, these mags did function to my satisfaction.
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Thanks for the update Shivesy, I hope these mags continue to perform.
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Shivesy Wrote:I am not 100% sold on these yet until I have more field experience but from the one time I was able to put them to use, these mags did function to my satisfaction. Should that be, " one of these mags did function to my satisfaction"?
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NordicG3K Wrote:I wish they would have used a different color follower. I have a bunch of the 5.56 mags and they have white followers too.
The Mako Group is selling E-Lander followers in black, green, and red if that will help.
https://www.themakogroup.com/products.aspx?CAT=8705
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My E-Lander 5.56 mags all have white followers, so I think I will get a bright blue magic marker and try that on my new Grendel mags. If that does not work well I can always get some other color to replace the white followers in the 5.56 mags.
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You might try a little food coloring on your followers. None of my mags have white followers, I still haven't ordered any of the new E Lander mags. I'd like a mag that holds about 14-15 round in a mag that is the size of a 5.56 20 rounder. I use my CP & ASC 10 rounders and the mags which look like 20's the most.
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They have coatings specifically for plastic from all the big paint companies in the spray paint aisle at your favorite hardware stores. That would probably be a good option.
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olde sarge Wrote:I'll have to second tango29's comment. I talked to Mark and he answered all of my annoying newby questions and is presently machining my new PF Bartlein barrel as we talk. Thank you Mark.
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