"Guns Everywhere" in GA

[LRRPF52]

True or false?

I have a right to be safe when I buy a ticket and attend a mass event with other people in close proximity?

If the roof collapses in a storm and crushes dozens, then creates a panic that results in hundreds trampled, like has happened before, it doesn't really matter who is to blame in the end.

The fact is that we take risks with out lives every day. Going into a large public arena where there are only so many exists = a high risk environment. When I am in these types of venues, there is an expectation that something will go wrong. If it goes incident-free, chalk it up to another lucky pass in my view.

I personally think that if someone saw everyone with blasters, they would be more apt to behave themselves, and security would be inclined to pull them quickly if they got out of hand from mental illness combined with alcohol consumption. Those with mental disorders who consume alcohol find it easy to act a fool in public for some reason, so you get what you get either way. I personally steer clear from mass casualty events in the making as much as possible, and have no expectation of safety when attending them. Roll the dice, and either enter or don't. Concerts and sports arenas are inherently dangerous.

[nincomp]

LRRPF52, I think that your view is valid, mine is just different. If I had seen more violence up close, my opinion may well match yours.

I think that you and I both can agree that in the US, it is important that we have the right to bear arms and the privilege not to if we so wish.

[LRRPF52]

To sum up my position, I side with freedom every chance, even it means people are uncomfortable with other people having freedom they think is too much...especially in those cases, actually.

Having lived in both environments, I vote with my feet and choose to live in one of the most free States in the world. I don't even visit my birth State anymore due to the violations of 2A and my rights, where I particularly need them among a population of criminals who have been rewarded with freedom, rather than jail sentences.

[cory]

I agree with LRRPF52, I'm the same way with crowds and in bars. I also agree with Thomas Jefferson, "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." I prefer dangerous Liberty over peaceful Slavery.

Nincomp I'm sorry for your loss. I have also had friends who have committed suicide and I've known people who have attempted "suicide". I've come to the conclusion if someone is determined to kill themselves they will, if someone wants attention this is a great way to get it.

I will say I've also known people (one closely) who attempted suicide because of an adverse reaction to anit depressants.

[rebelsoul]

+ 1 for the Jeffersonian wisdom. I first used my "Uzi" comment in an eigth grade civics class, and many times since. Its an evocative statement I use to express my opinion that a well prepared defense is the best deterent to violence. When I find myself in the midst of the anti-gun crowd, I use it as a shot across the bow of those that use emotion instead of logic for problem solving. I futher explain that the reason for developing weapons of mass destruction, and letting our adversaries know we have them, is so we don't have to use them. Rarely do I convince the the emotional types, I just enjoy my cocktail as they find some reason to be in another room.

[nincomp]

Rebelsoul, it seems like you have not thought this uzi thing through. I shocked, shocked, I tell you, that you missed a very important issue: style.

I mean, this is going to be a big problem for the well-dressed American. You really need to allow other firearms. That of course would create its own problems. I imagine my Wife asking me: "What looks better with this outfit, the uzi or the MP5?"

I think that you will need to allow color-coordinated* magazines as well.


* Klem, in case you are confused, that means colour-coodinated. You Australians and other foreigners really need to learn how to spell. Bill Alexander did.

[hm2 clark]

Would you be comfortable in a "anger management" group session knowing most people were armed? Keep in mind that most people are there because of their inability to properly manage their anger.

[Heywood]

Would you be comfortable in a "anger management" group session knowing most people were armed? Keep in mind that most people are there because of their inability to properly manage their anger.

Diligence in training, confidence in your own ability and situational awareness will make you comfortable in most any situation. The way in which you choose to prepare for that situation should up to you.

[rebelsoul]

Would you be comfortable in a "anger management" group session knowing most people were armed? Keep in mind that most people are there because of their inability to properly manage their anger.

Yes, everyone, everywhere should have the right to protect themselves. I would be uncomfortable if I were unarmed. My experiences convince me that most people aren't as aggressive toward an equal or greater threat. I've been in several fights that would not have happened if I had an equalizer. I discoverd that being average size on Saturday night, on Victory Drive in Columbus, GA. gave me above average size bruises.

[cory]

Would you be comfortable in a "anger management" group session knowing most people were armed? Keep in mind that most people are there because of their inability to properly manage their anger.

If those individuals are carrying they, then they likely carry on a daily basis.

If those individuals still had their freedom to carry because they haven't shot someone, then they obviously don't have anger management issues.

This is similar to the conundrum of whether you can go back in time to change an event from your past. Because if you do change that event, then what reason did you have to go back in time.

Clark it seems your imagination is your worst enemy.

[rebelsoul]

nincomp, Since I live on the cutting edge of high fashion, I proclaim the "Black Rifle" is the new black...... I can't wait till huntin' season so that me and my friends here in the mead hall can talk about something fun. I plan to share some more "smoked venison" with the horde.

[appleseed-kdc]

There are some places that I would not want to be around armed citizens.

No link to the law.

Does the law protect or over rule private property rights ?

As an owner, conventionally, you can make the rules for your private property.

People can choose to come or not.

As far as Government (local/state/federal) property is concerned (as this will likely come up next in response), if I am REQUIRED to go into a Government building e.g to pay taxes, drop off/pick up kids or whatever, then we, as tax payers, effectively own the property and they cannot make property rights rules against us. This is my opinion.

Yes, this does mean that a private school may have a 'no guns' policy, or a 'no open carry' policy. But that is private, as opposed to public property. In that case I would remonstrate with them and their insurance company as to why they are taking full responsibility and LIABILITY for whatever happens to the children in the case of an event. Plus investigate finding another school.

YMMV.

[rebelsoul]

+ 1 on the liability issue. If I were king, those who ordered the disarming would be subject to manslaughter charges if a death occurs.

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

Nincomp everything changes once someone puts a gun to your face. . . .

Look at the mall shooting (Oregon I believe). The guy was shooting at anyone he get within his sights until a man pulled out his concealed weapon and got the scumbag in his sights. He never had to fire his weapon risking catching more innocent people in the crossfire. The scumbag pointed his weapon at his head and ended his life once he realized that gun was pointed at him.

Having or the real threat of having a gun pointed at your head will directly impact someones decision making. Recent history clearly demonstrates this.

"Rodger's actions Friday night followed a perfectly predictable scenario. A mentally disturbed young man took guns and went to a gun-free zone where he unleashed his carnage. In Rodger's case, he used a knife and his car to create mayhem and casualties. Then, when the police closed in, he commited suicide." --- http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014...ion-death/