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I know that the PRS stock is VERY popular in AR builds. I'll be one of the first to say that the cool factor is definitely there. There isn't very much adjustment for length but more importantly, why is there a need for an adjustable cheek piece with the AR? Basically, you're already looking down the top of a straight length of pipe. The scope wants to be mounted as close to center bore as possible and still be comfortable but it's not like an AR has a lot of drop like a Rem 700. Personally, I have to use extra high mounts: Ring Height: .811" (measured from base of ring to bottom of scope tube). I've tried using shorter mounts, but my neck can't take it after a long session shooting prone like a morning of shooting prairie dogs. I even noticed it shooting over pickup mirror. I've got a high dollar set of high rings on one AR that's sitting on top of some YHM risers. Looks terrible and added more weight and cost, but my neck sure feels better. Since then I've only gone with the extra high. Why the need to go higher than the A2 stock height? You're already above the bore due to the buffer tube being a fixed point. Maybe my head is just too big! Just my .02 on it anyway 
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]5195[/ATTACH]The PRS stock would give you the perfect cheek weld with your high mounted scope. It is not light but is a great stock for precision shooting . Getting the correct length of pull and cheek weld is what it is made for and it does it very well. It has great length adjustment so I'm a little confused why you think it doesn't. A shorter person may find it too long but for my needs it works perfectly. We all come in different sizes and there are lots of choices out there to custom fit our rifles to our unique body parts. The stocks heavier weight helps with stability when shooting precision compared to a lighter stock. By the way I have a big head too. 
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Hey, if it works use it! Not bashing it. Just isn't for me. I had to actually turn my head a little sideways to get a good lineup on my crosshairs when using high mounts. My cheek bone was buried in the top of the buffer tube. This was in no way comfortable or natural. And I don't like mounting a scope high up, but I have to. I'm a kinda big and my head matches me! Just cracks me up when every time I see a pic of someone actually on their rifle with PRS, the cheek piece is in the lowest position!
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]5196[/ATTACH] Lonehill Wrote:Hey, if it works use it! Not bashing it. Just isn't for me. I had to actually turn my head a little sideways to get a good lineup on my crosshairs when using high mounts. My cheek bone was buried in the top of the buffer tube. This was in no way comfortable or natural. And I don't like mounting a scope high up, but I have to. I'm a kinda big and my head matches me! Just cracks me up when every time I see a pic of someone actually on their rifle with PRS, the cheek piece is in the lowest position!
It can depend on your shooting position where you put the cheek rest. Off the bench I have my cheek rest down more than in the prone. My shooting buddy is just the opposite. I know you weren't bashing it and it would be silly to use a stock that doesn't fit but used it for the so called cool factor. I had the PRS stock on another Grendel build but took it off because of its heavy weight. When I used the lighter stock for precision I had a lot harder time keeping my rifle steady so I installed it on my last Grendel build.
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Have you looked at ADM's Recon-H line of mounts. It sounds like exactly what you need. It pairs up nicely with the PRS cheek adjust-ability.
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I agree, it is a personal preference however. I personally never needed the cheek adjustment because I built my rifles my self and mounted the scope accordingly. Though I am the opposite, I like mine as low as I can get them.
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If able, I would use the standard buttstock, or perhaps a padded ACE. As it is, though, my PRS is raised about 3/8" to give me optimum alignment with most of the one-piece mounts. I also need a longer LOP, so the PRS was a true windfall for me. The only thing I have not been happy with, and this is not Magpul's fault, are the clamp on monopods. They just haven't been very steady, and I've gone back to a rear bag.
It really all depends upon what you want to do, for hunting I use fixed height stocks. My match rifles have adjustable cheekpieces and I have different height settings and LOP when firing prone, sitting, offhand. If you want optimum accuracy it is an absolute must to have and adjustable cheek piece to eliminate muscle tension, an enemy of accuracy. If you always shoot from the same position, a fixed cheek piece can work but any other position brings in too much compromise for me. I've owned the PRS and while it works it isn't my favorite. I like the White Oak adjustable but stock if using a side charge handle, one of the most popular stock for the NRA high power rifle national matches. http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/pr...282&page=1
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montana Wrote:[ATTACH=CONFIG]5195[/ATTACH]The PRS stock would give you the perfect cheek weld with your high mounted scope. It is not light but is a great stock for precision shooting . Getting the correct length of pull and cheek weld is what it is made for and it does it very well. It has great length adjustment so I'm a little confused why you think it doesn't. A shorter person may find it too long but for my needs it works perfectly. We all come in different sizes and there are lots of choices out there to custom fit our rifles to our unique body parts. The stocks heavier weight helps with stability when shooting precision compared to a lighter stock. By the way I have a big head too.
Compared to the A2 stock, the PRS can shorten the LOP by 0.25" or extend it by 0.75". This ain't a whole lot imo.
There are extra length plates for the PRS, and the cheek piece is excellent for setting up your eye height to optic center. I prefer the stock as short as it will go, but that's me. What's superior about the PRS to many of the bolt gun stocks is that the adjustment positions never fail, and don't rely on screw tension to keep the pieces in place. When you strip out a McMillan cheek piece, you just made a costly mistake. Can't happen with the PRS.
It is a very well-engineered product, in my experience, and the easiest to adjust for me. The cheek piece is the main feature I like that stock for. I have mostly used them on AR10's though. My Grendel's are all lightweight so far.
Lonehill Wrote:Compared to the A2 stock, the PRS can shorten the LOP by 0.25" or extend it by 0.75". This ain't a whole lot imo.
Add the MDT Engineering LOP system to your PRS stock and it will lenthen the LOP on the PRS more than the magpul prs spacers. cost is 112 USD.
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HartaTac.com has the PRS for 179.99 plus shipping right now if anybody wants one.
If you dont like the PRS and dont want the riser may i recommend a look at the Magpul UBR stock. Its rock solid and adjust using a railing system rather than the standard adjustable stocks you normally see. Its rock solid as well with no play. However it is costly. But you know what they say when it comes to guns. Buy once cry once . Really depends on what you want and what your comfortable with. The important thing is to just have fun making the rifle the way you want it! Good luck.
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I've got the UBR now on my .223 Wylde. Absolutely love it. Still have to have extra high rings to get a comfortable cheek weld. UBR on ST lower, RRA NM trigger, T2 buffer. Gonna swap both uppers on that lower. I like how it shortens up a rifle, especially useful in vehicle with suppressor on. As a hunting guide and rancher, I shoot a lot of coyotes and space is usually a premium in a cab. It's absolutely rock solid. Snaps right out to your preset and you got a handy door to stash your NFA papers. Heavy, yes but balances very well to where you don't even notice the weight. I really like the PRS, it just wouldn't be much of an improvement for me right now in most situations. Might get one on sale down the road if/when I get a dedicated lower put together for the 6.5 and I want to really get serious about punching bullseyes. UBR is pretty much perfect in every real world hunting scenario. I just found it funny that every guy I've seen with PRS shoots with the riser bottomed out!
i dont lol. Thats what its there for so i dont have to pick my head up of the stock to view through my scope and be comfortable
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