This might be of interest for those of you looking for the LAR side-charger

[MrFrankZ]

Just got this email from Joe Bob.

[NugginFutz]

Could you paste the links from your e-flier? Crosshill or XSR-15 do not come up on their site search.

[LRRPF52]

I can tell you why. Freedom Group shut down sales of individual components to Joe Blow. LAR is right here in the Salt Lake Valley, and they make about 85% of the entire market's upper and lower receivers. When I say "make", I mean they get the forgings, then machine them, and have them anodized before being sent out to Bushmaster, DPMS, Remington, and other AR15 companies.

Whenever they would have blems, they would sell them to individual customers for like $48 per. When Freedom Group took over, they ordered the shop people to grind blems up, and turned off the faucet for individual sales. It makes perfect business sense that they did that too, because Freedom Group has interests in selling rifles through DPMS, Bushmaster, and Remington.

If discriminating customers like me only want select quality components, like LAR receivers, that is one less rifle sale in their minds, even though I would never buy from them anyway since I have different standards for QC than Freedom Group does.

[MrFrankZ]

Yes, I spoke to this some time ago after I got an email from a sales guy at Remington. When I started shopping for the upper for my Grendel, I had my heart set on the LAR and could never get an answer from vendors as to when they would be available. Joe Bob got some in stock, and they sold out in the time it took me to get back to my office from lunch.
I used the contact us form on their site, but got the email from a Remington rep. He basically said they don't know when or if uppers would ever be available for the public to buy directly again. That is when I moved on and got the ASA.

[arnie]

I ordered one of these upper receivers on the 31st and I got an email confirmation and a CC pending charge so keeping my fingers crossed .Arnie

[keystone183]

One just arrived in my mailbox Sat. Now if i could only get that Lilja........

[arnie]

I got mine Saturday also .I have a barrel ordered from Precision Firearms .Hope they are on schedule with all there moving and medical problems . Arnie

[cbe1962]

Does anyone have any experience with this upper?

[cory]

If you want a side charger I'd suggest looking to quality arms.

[second strike]

been using a crosshill right side for a couple months,,probably 300 rds. or so..it is the best machined and finished upper i've seen..have not had a single issue with it..the nib carrier is a plus for me,,less lube and easy cleaning..also did not require facing..you'll be happy with it..

[arnie]

I just put my new Bartlien 6.5 Grendel barrel from PF on my side charger .This is my first upper build .The gas tube holes lined up at exactly 50 ft. pounds .Is this enough so it wont come loose ?

[LRRPF52]

I just put my new Bartlien 6.5 Grendel barrel from PF on my side charger .This is my first upper build .The gas tube holes lined up at exactly 50 ft. pounds .Is this enough so it wont come loose ?

Just about right for a Grendel. Book answer for the original AR15/M16 is 35-80ft-lbs, but I think I remember Bill A. saying something about 60 ft-lbs working better for the Grendel.

[PrecisionFirearms]

I just put my new Bartlien 6.5 Grendel barrel from PF on my side charger .This is my first upper build .The gas tube holes lined up at exactly 50 ft. pounds .Is this enough so it wont come loose ?

50 LBS is fine. You are good to go.

Mark Hostetter
Precision Firearms

[arnie]

Thanks Mark .Will try it out next Tuesday.

[arnie]

Well now UPS lost the muzzle brake that Mark sent out a day later than the barrel .They say I refused delivery but I talked to some one at UPS and they said the box was MT when they went to deliver it so he never tried to deliver .. So I guess its floating around on a conveyer belt some where or in the back of a truck . I hate UPS .They take twice as long for deliveries than Fed Ex . Have the best service with small stuff with the USPS .

[arnie]

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In case any one is interested I cast the chamber of my PF chamber and the Stoner chamber . The top one is the Stoner ,hope the picture works. You can see the Stoner free bore is very short if there at all .

[BjornF16]

^^^Nothing to see here...keep moving along...

LOL

[LRRPF52]

That picture is worth a thousand posts right there. No wonder people were having projectiles jammed into the lands, pulled bullets, pierced and blown primers...

Holy schneikies. And what is that little cone-shaped area just about ten thou ahead of the neck on the PF cast? Is that my imagination?

[BjornF16]

You can see the compounded throat on that PF...not there on the Stoner...things that make you go "hmmmm"...


...but of course, morons elsewhere will claim PF doesn't use SAAMI spec chamber...LOL

[45r]

Excellent picture.
The stoner barrel shows what happens when the reamer gets worn out where it cuts the compound throat.
If the part of the reamer that cuts the cone shape wears out you get a short throat.
If you get a barrel like that all you can do is shoot short seated bullets and clean it a lot till the short and rough throat gets broke in from erosion.
The PF barrel shows the quality that comes from carbide reamers that are sharp and not worn out.
They cut the compound throat perfectly and bullets can be seated where they should be.