Tumbling?
#21
Skip shooting is plausible. We didn't get a dirt shower with the shots that are pictured, but if he hit far enough in front of the berm we wouldn't have and it is hardpan/gravel a little farther out.

That makes more sense than anything I've been able to figure out!
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#22
If I was the feller in question; I'd pay Mr. Waites to shoot 5 shots and see what the results looked like.
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#23
pappy42 Wrote:If I was the feller in question; I'd pay Mr. Waites to shoot 5 shots and see what the results looked like.

Lol! I sight in or help people sight in rifles all the time, just to see their faces when they start hitting targets at 400 yards or more!!! No payment required! But a light weight 300 WinMag wouldn't be my first choice!! Ouch!!
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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bwaites Wrote:Lol! I sight in or help people sight in rifles all the time, just to see their faces when they start hitting targets at 400 yards or more!!! No payment required! But a light weight 300 WinMag wouldn't be my first choice!! Ouch!!

Yep, I've got one. Cooked up some hot 200 grain loads for African plains game and the bench sighting sessions were no fun. At my age and shooting style; the dang thing jumped out of my hands each shot.

Funny; the jumping out of hands thing didn't happen when shooting game.
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#25
pappy42 Wrote:Yep, I've got one. Cooked up some hot 200 grain loads for African plains game and the bench sighting sessions were no fun. At my age and shooting style; the dang thing jumped out of my hands each shot.

Funny; the jumping out of hands thing didn't happen when shooting game.

That adrenalin is amazing stuff, isn't it!! LOLSmile
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#26
pappy42 Wrote:Yep, I've got one. Cooked up some hot 200 grain loads for African plains game and the bench sighting sessions were no fun. At my age and shooting style; the dang thing jumped out of my hands each shot.

Funny; the jumping out of hands thing didn't happen when shooting game.
Five word solution (if they were skipshots...): Caldwell Lead Sled & Muzzle break.... Big Grin
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#27
Al, just send me the bbl and I will thread and install the brake.

Gimme a call if you want...
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#28
I think they were tumbling. If tumbling, they don't always show the full profile, because like a spun knife, sometimes they almost hit the point and you don't get the profile.



When Charter Arms was making a five-shot 44 special revolver, the Bulldog, they had trouble with tumbling. Back when the American Rifleman was worth a damn the NRA tech staff tracked it to a barrel constriction at the frame connection point. Perhaps the throat was reamed improperly, or the bullets were undersize and didn't take the rifling. Sometime rifles just don't like a particular bullet, and maybe some version of this rifle's problem is the reason. I'd love to see the rifle and mike the bullets.
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