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Neck of casing flat spot?
#1
So I got to shoot my Grendel for the first time the other day and when I picked up the casings the neck of the casing was flat on one side. I don't plan on reloading yet but is this normal? I was shooting wolf mp ammo
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#2
I'm assuming you mean the mouth of the neck, not the whole neck?

If so, its usually caused by the case mouth striking the brass deflector, or by hitting concrete when it hits the ground. If it is every case, its almost always the brass deflector on the upper, and can be reduced by putting a small piece of the fuzzy side of velcro on the brass deflector.
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#3
bwaites Wrote:I'm assuming you mean the mouth of the neck, not the whole neck?

If so, its usually caused by the case mouth striking the brass deflector, or by hitting concrete when it hits the ground. If it is every case, its almost always the brass deflector on the upper, and can be reduced by putting a small piece of the fuzzy side of velcro on the brass deflector.

^^^^this.
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#4
I guess I didn't look that closely. It was dirt so definitly not the concrete. I will have to shoot a few more rounds and keep them this time. perhaps take a picture of them as well. I didn't want to shoot many rounds as I don't have the scope or mounts yet for the gun.
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#5
Just remember that firing a semi-auto is a somewhat violent event. A portion of the gas is used to eject the fired cartridge and the deflector changes the trajectory of the spent cartridge as it leaves the rifle. My Grendel AR cases show a more pronounced flat spot than my .223 AR cases. But the G also has more powder in it so it's ejection is more severe. It is a natural byproduct of shooting and the Velcro will definitely help.
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#6
Wait? You are not keeping your brass? Heck you need to keep it and sell it here. There are a ton of us that would like to get their hands on your brass. The odds that someone who picks them up at the range actually needing them is slim to none. Help us out man!
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#7
I was planning on keeping it but I thought with the damaged neck (first high powered semi auto) that it was runinned. Only about 11 rounds were not kept. I will keep them and sell them if they are not bad. I just saw them and thought ohoh what did I do wrong.
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#8
bwaites Wrote:If it is every case, its almost always the brass deflector on the upper, and can be reduced by putting a small piece of the fuzzy side of velcro on the brass deflector.

Do you just glue it in place?
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#9
davidj Wrote:Do you just glue it in place?

You can, or just buy the stuff that has sticky on the back.

The stuff I use comes in a roll of like 8 feet, 1 inch wide.

Like this, but WalMart has it in smaller packages, too:

http://www.bing.com/shopping/velcro-9008...A0&lppc=15
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#10
Watch this video about 1:40 or so in, you'll see an AR without a brass deflector, and you'll see the brass pivoting and hitting the rifle, which will cause those flat spots.

PS, Watch the whole video, very interesting stuff! Watch for the surprises!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDqkgAMfBog
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#11
Krebs has some very cool toys!!!
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#12
RStewart Wrote:Krebs has some very cool toys!!!

Yes he does, and he's calling them Grendels!
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#13
bwaites Wrote:Yes he does, and he's calling them Grendels!

A sub-moa AK in 6.5G. That was nice.
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#14
RStewart Wrote:A sub-moa AK in 6.5G. That was nice.

Though its just barely an AK. Machined receiver, special piston system, custom barrel, custom sight mounting system that looks like a bridge structure!

It is really cool, but....

Now if he can deliver it for a sub $600 price and sub MOA, that would impress me!
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#15
bwaites Wrote:Though its just barely an AK. Machined receiver, special piston system, custom barrel, custom sight mounting system that looks like a bridge structure!
Now if he can deliver it for a sub $600 price and sub MOA, that would impress me!

A Nascar racer is barely a Chevy, Ford or Dodge, but they still get to call them one. lol!

I wouldn't hold my breathe on the $600 range. A look at his site doesn't show anything under $1200. A guy on another forum once said the only way he would pay more than $500 for an AK was if Joseph Stalin had personally owned it.
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#16
bwaites Wrote:You can, or just buy the stuff that has sticky on the back.

The stuff I use comes in a roll of like 8 feet, 1 inch wide.

Like this, but WalMart has it in smaller packages, too:

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Works very well....thanks for the tip
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#17
davidj Wrote:Works very well....thanks for the tip

Just passing along a good tip someone gave me...been so long I have no idea who posted it first!
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#18
The AK under $600 in 6.5G could be done, the problem is that there would have to be a lot of them purchased to justify the effort.

A stamped receiver could be used and would be an excellent choice done correctly, I would modify the magwell opening and weld on an AR style magwell.

In fact the bbl could be made to be a "thread in" instead of pinned.
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#19
In the end, why bother though?
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#20
warped Wrote:In the end, why bother though?

I agree, but there's always someone wants a new gadget.
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