Bcg?

[500]

How do you feel about different bcg manufacturers. It seems like the tactical world kinda has fads but when I built my 5.56 everyone was talking about bravo company bcg's and how they are the best. From what I see there are some other less expensive bcg's that should be just as good. What do you guys prefer? Also does having a nickel boron or chrome plated bcg have any effect as far as building an accurate rifle? From what I've read they are just easier to clean.

[Tikka]

True. They look cool too. IMO there is no difference in reliability or accuracy. I've seen many pics of other shooters rigs on this forum,most of which probably have more experience with the grendel than me, and many are running non-plated BCG's. Just my two cents. Also, if you try loading CFE223 powder you'll find that cleaning is much easier too.

Tikka

[jurassic]

Last week I found a complete Yankee Hill Machine BCG in 6.8 spc( could not find just carriers anywhere) from Brownells and received it yesterday fit and finish appear to be very high quality, no machining marks, etc.
Awhile back I had bought a no name carrier and the difference is dramatic, it functions fine, but the quality of the machining is nothing compared to YHM. I have a DD on Back order and expect it to be very nice also.

[stokesrj]

I've owned many bolt carriers, there is a difference in bolts but a carrier is a carrier. I used a stock Rock River Arms carrier to win my Distinguished Rifleman medal. It had over 14,000 rounds on it at the time and never even a hickup.
I also have Les Baer National Match Bolt carriers, they work the same and cost twice as much. I also have chrome plated ultralight bolt carrier that works the same and costs three times as much.
Bob

[michaelmew]

...but a carrier is a carrier...

Bob, are you referring exclusively to different manufacturers and finish with this statement? What about M16 vs AR15 vs ???

-mm

[500]

Nobody has them anyhow!

[tx4guns]

PWS and JP have some unique carrier designs. I'm gonna try a PWS in my Blackout build to see how it performs.

[500]

They do look very cool! I back ordered a chrome del-ton m16 bcg but who knows how long it will take to get it. I am going to keep a close eye on a couple other places to see if they get bcg's in.

[LRRPF52]

There are some critical dimensions with the carrier that can equal reliability issues, but it seems that most makers have their CNC specs and QC down tight. The hardest thing after that is hard chrome-plating the slot for the bolt. There are a lot of carriers made in Taiwan.

There are also issues from time-to-time with machine shops making the OD of the guide rails larger than spec, so you have sluggish operation & lots of malfs, although the one company that comes to mind seemed to have gotten their act together after that.

[jurassic]

I wish we new who was selling the imported carriers. Anyone know?

[stokesrj]

I'm saying that there is much to do about nothing, it is cosmetic, a lot of the competitors I shoot with use the M16 carrier, because it weighs more, but they work the same as a stock Rock River Arms AR 15 bolt carrier. Even with the Tubb weight and using the tungsten carbide center insert, I get the same accuracy, reliability, and case life I get with the stock AR 15 bolt carrier. The nickel plated versions are a little easier to clean, but in the end you have to clean them just as often or you'l get stoppages. I am building a 6mm Hagar NRA match rifle as we speak and it is using a RRA standard carrier modified with a bolt operating handle. If I thought there was any advantage to a more costly carrier, I would be using it instead, this is a no expense spared build, I have over $1,600 dollars invested in the metallic sights alone.

Bob

[Nukes]

Anyone have any experience with the BCGs from WMD Guns?

[dmsims21]

"I have over $1,600 dollars invested in the metallic sights alone."

I am interested in how one can spend $1600 on metallic sights. Are they different than iron sights, or does calling them metallic make you feel better about spending $1600 (in addition to the fact that modern sights not having iron)?

[bwaites]

The sights competition shooters use aren't generally iron, but titanium, aluminum, or maybe unobtanium. They aren't really all metal, either, as one of them is generally a very good piece of optically correct glass.

Here's a bit more info.

http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/200...ights.html

[dmsims21]

Wow. I never knew there was that much engineering involved in metallic sights. Thanks for the link.

[bwaites]

That site is a few years old, there are newer "metallic" sights that are more expensive than a Nightforce scope. Its gotten to be an equipment race even in that game!

[stokesrj]

You can do it for less, but a match rifle sight can be used on multiple rifles and moved with no loss of zero, I use my set this way so went first class.

Starting at the rear of the rifle you need a base, rear sight, rear iris, and an anti-glare tube. Then at the muzzle end you need an extension tube and index ring, the front sight, front aperture, lens, and sun shade, then along the barrel you need a mirage band. This is for 300 and 600 yard prone stages, then for the 200 yard offhand and sitting rapid, I switch to a shorter tube and smaller sight to keep the wind from blowing the front of the rifle as much.

My chosen list is as follows
Warner 0ºcant base $125
Warner #1 sight $590
Gehman 510 rear iris $51
Gehman anti glare tube $49
Houle 6" bloop tube $140
Right Sight 30mm $379
Houle 2" bloop tube $140
Tubb 22mm front sight $299
Gehman 22mm front iris $89
Total $1,862 even more than I remembered.

But the results are very good, here is a pic of two five shot groups using my Tubb 2K in 6.5 Creedmoore, 123 A-Max, and 39 grains of Varget. These were shot at 100 yards from sand bags, back to back, one with a 36X Leupold bench rest scope and one with the 30mm Right Sight.

[Carnutz]

What does all this look like on the gun? I don't have a clue...