Doomsday Preppers and Bill A.

[BjornF16]

Watching Doomsday Preppers on NGC...first episode at 2000 Central had our very own Bill Alexander giving Beowolf training to one of the preppers.

Sent a Beowolf round 200 yards through a car door and exploded a watermelon behind it!

Awesome!...wish the whole episode had more AA wares...

[hydrotech]

Gotta see that one!

[Deer Hunter]

Got it on dvr, will check it out later.

[KentuckyBuddha]

I just was watching that too. I am not so sure that shot going through the car door and the reaction shot was a two camera contemporary deal, as his follow through left much to be desired. : ) He would have been much better off with a Grendel or even .223 (with varmint grenades so he doesn't over-penetrate in his house and kill his dog behind the bad guy).

Mr Alexander's bit was quite nice though.

[BjornF16]

The purpose of the Beo (as explained in the segment) was anti-vehicle, not inside the home...hopefully the prepper has a Grendel or .223 as you suggest.

I bet Mr. A made the shot that exploded the melon!

...although the prepper is allegedly the inventor of the bed bunker gun safe. I would assume he has guns and is proficient...but you know what they say about assumptions.

[KentuckyBuddha]

You make a fair point, they did indeed explicitly say that it was for anti-vehicle, but a Grendel can do that as well as they showed on "Futureweapons" going through not one but two car doors and exploding a melon like Gallagher in the finale of his act. : D I would be much happier with a ps 90 or something in the house anyhow. That is unless we could talk Barnes into making varmint grenades for 6.5, that would be pretty awesome!!

Sadly shooting is a perishable skill. I took a few years off from shooting and was humiliated to learn I didn't shoot remotely up to standard (I know...arrogance right). That prepper might be a fine shooter that was a bit out of practice as well as the possibility the recoil had intimidated him. But, yhea I reckon it was likely not him or at least was not him on the same shot they showed him in profile. Shrug

It was a fun episode either way. : )

[Kikn]

Anyone know the name of the episode? Season/episode#

[bwaites]

Tonites episode.

[Kikn]

I guess I missed it. The one I found for tonight was the two families in Houston with the goat ...I saw the rounds for the wolf they were playing poker with but didn't see an engine block getting shot by bill a

[Y85]

off topic (sort of) but, anyone got experience w the Beowulf?

[Y85]

off topic (sort of) -- but, anyone got experience w the Beowulf?

[txgunner00]

I would like to watch that segment but I can't stomach the show anymore. I watched the recent episode about the Houston families because I know the instructor & range owner that was featured on the show. I was appalled at what I saw. I expected the producers to make the preppers look like idiots, and they didn't disappoint, but the total disregard of safe weapons handing by the preppers and LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT made me furious. I would hope they cleared the weapons and sterilized the environment before pointing their weapons at each other but they made no mention that they had. Chamber flags should have been used at a minimum. What would have been the smart thing to do is use training guns. I won't be watching the show again as I don't want to support their ratings.

[/rant off]

[Harvest123]

I have experience with the Beowolf. 2 shots! Had a failure in the mag release. Broke for some reason. I do not know why everyone is so scared of the recoil. It was very, very managable. I have an AR10 with a 16" barrel, and it gives a sharp but quick recoil. The .50 Beowolf and the .335 ammo I used gave only a push to the shoulder.

If you watch the video, it has a tank break on it. So does mine. Also, the climb of the rifle is about 25 degrees - pretty big. The guy could have reduced that greatly with a vfg. With the tank break, recovery is fast. I loved seeing Bill A. on the tube again. If folks new of what he had accomplished, he would be extremely recognizeable. I am not sure if the guy made the shot, but it insinuated that Bill was seeing if he could access an object at 200. Who cares. the weapon is capable.

I agree with txgunner00 about the previous episode. I could not believe what I was seeing. Nothing to indicate a safe environment. It does not turn me completely off the to the show, but the producers showed their ignorance of what should be shown and known in a scenario such as the one shown. The LE did give the family good advice, at least in regards to what complete idiots they were to leave a covered position. Been there and done that. Could not believe they went straight out in the open to engage. Guess they learned.

[Alex4922]

I find myself leaning to one side or the other as actors let their muzzles wander. Even trying to enjoy an old western last night, there's John Wayne in the shootist waving his six gun in Lauren Bachals face. You'd have thought the duke would have known better. Maybe too much laudnum.

Alex

[Michael]

Being in SW Virginia, not far from Bill's House of Grendel, I have fired a few rounds through the Beowulf. Main reason I don't have one is the ammo is so expensive - even to reload. Recoil is...manageable...but you know you aren't shooting a .308. Accuracy out to 200M is good, beyond that, forget it - bullet drops too much.

Purpose of the Beowulf is anti-vehicle, and my understanding from Bill and others at AA is there has been a lot of interest in the weapon for that purpose from LE and MIL. I would imagine breaching is also a key component.

Bill and his team at AA are all great people. I have been on the range with them a few times when they were test firing weapons, and they never hesitated to talk about what they do or even let you fire a few test rounds down range.

[Kikn]

I own a Beowulf. It is a pig stopper and then some. Ammo is a bit spendy but it isn't a paper puncher. I use it for hunting and if lined up you can take more then two at a time. Shot placement isn't a big deal just be somewhere on target and watch them drop.

Also the preppers gun safety was very lax I couldn't believe they had those kids aiming what I thought to be loaded guns at LEO's

[Armored Transport]

I shoot the 325's out of mine and I think it's a HOOT. Recoil isn't bad but I do have a quality break sitting here that is going on with in the next few weeks. I have not done any reloading yet but with all the 50 bullits out there it promises to be some fun in the future. But for now I have 3+ cases of the 325's I am looking forward to throwing around. I use the Beo. lower for my Grendel. It sports a PRS stock and an SSA trigger. I use the P.R.O. sight from Aimpoint on the 50 with a small Sig laser on the 9:00 rail. Both hold up fine to the recoil. I use the LBC handguard for the rail system on both the 50 and 6.5. Nice looking package for sure. When I get the break on the 50 I will snap a few of the pair and post them.

[Dogue]

I would like to watch that segment but I can't stomach the show anymore.

I'm with you. I've tried to like it, even just for entertainment value, but I just can't bring myself to watch it.

I guess I'm not surprised at the people that are on this show...any 'smart' prepper wouldn't show his setup (or face) on TV.

[bwaites]

off topic (sort of) -- but, anyone got experience w the Beowulf?

The most attention getting rifle I have. Take it out at the range and people glance over and then go back to what they are doing.

Then the first shot, they start converging, saying, "WHAT WAS THAT?!!"

I use a Mako energy absorbing stock, with a Limbsaver recoil pad for shooters that are a little recoil sensitive. Works great, less recoil than a 12 gauge slug gun. I've been known to put 100-150 rounds downrange at a range session. My current Beo has about 800 rounds through it.

I've taken mine out to 400 yards without problems. It absolutely hammers steel at that range. No little "tink" its a resonant "bong". My son says it sounds like a ball peen hammer hitting the steel. You have to understand the ballistics. Its essentially a 45-70, and they use those to shoot at a mile. It isn't flat, but it gets there. I've not gone beyond 400, but I might take it to Boomershoot, and if the conditions are right, I might give it a try all the way up at 700.

Drop is easy to work out. Wind deflection is tougher, because none of these bullets are exactly efficient in the wind! Shooting the 300 grain FTX and with a 100 yard zero, it drops 529 inches at 700 yards, which is more than 40 feet! But it gets there, and is still chugging along at almost 800 FPS and putting out 400+ foot pounds of energy. That's more energy than a .45 at the muzzle.

The Beo is a honker of a round, and out to 300 yards, it will flat hammer whatever you shoot. Its not flat, but it gets there.

[Y85]

the AA uppers aren't horribly expensive -- anybody else (besides AA) make ammo? does it require special/modified mags?