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Makes for interesting politics and law enforcement.
Apologies if this has been addressed before. I wanted to get feedback from readers of this set of readers.
Micro stamping ID
http://soc.li/8uWxP9H
Although I can see the benefit and would not have a problem with my firearm ID'ed.
But if this were to come to ARs, would i that make the upper a registered part of record?
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09-12-2012, 11:35 PM
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rickOshay Wrote:Makes for interesting politics and law enforcement.
Apologies if this has been addressed before. I wanted to get feedback from readers of this set of readers.
Micro stamping ID http://soc.li/8uWxP9H
Although I can see the benefit and would not have a problem with my firearm ID'ed.
But if this were to come to ARs, would i that make the upper a registered part of record?
It's so easily defeated that it won't work, simply touch the end of the firing pin to a sandpaper wheel, and there goes the microstamp. Firing pins are easy to make, I've seen AR firing pins made from nails.
In fact, here is a do it yourself video:
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/07...plex-nail/
And how many REGISTERED, non stolen, guns are used for crimes anyways? All this tells you is who bought it in the first place, and that information isn't supposed to be available. Its just one more gun control measure that won't work because criminals don't obey laws.
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There are something like 100 million gun owners in the United States. Somewhere around 300 million firearms WITHOUT microstamped firing pins. Tell me how you help the illegal problem by starting microstamping?
Studies have shown it doesn't consistently work, anyways.
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Hi Bill - I agree that this is a wasteful feel-good effort by politicians that don't understand firearms.
The Antiguan laws passes to date are not responsible for the decrease in crime.
But given that I'm a bit overly sensitive to what politicians can do (living in CA), I was thinking of th impact of a law applied to ARs - with the firing pin now being registered.
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Yes, it would make the upper a registered item. BUT....California has been trying this since 2007 and can't make it work.
Check out the Calguns forums, they discuss it at length.
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09-13-2012, 02:15 AM
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We have a name for people who are as naïve as Ms. Schimel...Victims.
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The firing pins would have to be serial numbered. Then it would be the part that is the gun. Better stock op on firing pins.
better pickup your brass...
Bill Alexander
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First pierced primer and the data is gone. 5000 rounds and you are in the same place.
This is absolute BS. Anyone with even the most basic grasp of tooling can see that this will not work. The bigger joke and the more insidious one is that someone was allowed to patent a simple data stamp and this has been backed by the lawmakers.
data stamped firing pin: $200 (I am assuming)
Brass Catcher: $25
Pre-Ban Firing Pin: Priceless
Im with you, Bill. Then again we did spend tens of thousands of dollars trying to figure out a pen for space...the Russians bought pencils.
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rcvisket Wrote:data stamped firing pin: $200 (I am assuming)
Brass Catcher: $25
Pre-Ban Firing Pin: Priceless
+1, but you paid too much for your brass catcher. Got mine for $8.
this is just a way to no who has what.........and when the have that list it makes it easier to no who to take them from...........make sure you all sign a petition against the un gun treaty we all love our gun so thats keep them. they are trying to ban ar style rifles they state they are not hunting rifles thats be sure to show them otherwise........sorry about the rant
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This will pass-let it go. The more it is spoke of -the more it's noticed,,,, get an extra f-pin just in case-hee. Relax...
Trip to local range after LE day, $5.
LE brass dropped at crime scene....priceless.