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New Injection-Molded Stainless Cartridge Cases
#1
OK, got a heads up from a member here and THIS is EXACTLY what we've been needing for my dream assault rifle cartridge.

Link to Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC) announcement of patent on injection-molded stainless-steel cartridge cases HERE.

File this under things I wish someone would invent and someone actually did!

SIG has recognized the strength of stainless steel for their 6.8 NGSW cartridge with a two-piece case consisting of a standard brass body mated to a higher-strength-yet-lighter stainless steel case head unit attached via a locking ring. The downside is the added complexity of this three-piece design.

Why couldn't we have good ol' steel-case, but use stainless steel instead of the mild steel plus laquer or polymer coating?

Voilá!

CTC's website is HERE.

Anybody as excited as I am or meh?


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#2
Neat, I guess? Aside from better corrosion resistance under long term harsh duty storage, what advantage does this have over lacquer coated steel?

My concern is that it will increase the cost, but also, I'm not sure if bare ferrous metal on barrel chamber ferrous (apparently it's still magnetic) metal is going to be better or worse for gas sealing and for releasing than lacquer coated is going to be?

Though, one challenge with laquor seems to be that not enough soot sticks to it, allowing soot to build in the chamber and then create problems. Which is why I run a few rounds of brass in the bottom of my last mag, when I do a steel outing, to pull that out. So maybe the stainless has similar properties in that regard, as brass does?
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#3
Brass in a rifle chamber can withstand 60, maybe 62 ksi like the creedmoors. So the limitation is not the cartridge, the issue is the bolt, and the short-limit of the AR mag length. Why not an AR “12.5”, a blend of 10/15. IMO you’re getting problems you don’t realize by trying to go up to 80 ksi levels. A “12.5” could have a longer and slightly fatter case to get more MV yet less than 308 case length.
last, how does this stainless case expand to seal during firing?
so, wait n see for me…
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#4
While we’re at it, why not add that the 2 modes are a “bolt action” or semi… so it doesn’t fall under the “dreaded” moniker of weapon of war? I’d even be willing to say oem is a 10 round mag design…

We’ve already got the AR, don’t need another one. Savage has a “straight pull” bolt action, make this style the bolt action of the new 12.5.
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lazyengineer Wrote:Aside from better corrosion resistance under long term harsh duty storage, what advantage does this have over lacquer coated steel?

Don't know the technicals details. Maybe strength? Maybe ease of creating other cartridges? Maybe cost?
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BluntForceTrauma Wrote:Don't know the technicals details. Maybe strength? Maybe ease of creating other cartridges? Maybe cost?

In general carbon steel is considered to be stronger than stainless, so not sure about strength. But if this has the spring-back better than carbon steel, that would be big.
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#7
Their website says it is a MIM process, and the case is lighter, stronger, thinner, etc...
So possibly using SS in this process gives better results than plain carbon steel.
Extra corrosion resistance (inside and out) is probably also a plus. There is some % humidity even inside the case, what, 45% or so?

Wonder how reloadable it is. Brass expands out/back but also conforms out to the chamber length at the shoulder... this is useful not only in sealing but also makes up for chamber length tolerances. What would the SS do? Plus how if anything does the "flash" heating during firing affect the material properties.

It should result in a longer lasting primer pocket.
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#8
I work for a company that builds heavy process control equipment for refineries and power plants. We build most of it our of stainless steel. For case heads where the thickness is significant relative to OA size is a reasonable thing to do. But when you go to thinner material, a lot of strange ( unpleasant ? ) things happen. Stainless has very poor heat transfer capabilities so it will warp and twist badly. I could envision cases becoming so stuck that serious machine work becomes required to remove the case. Stainless is also very brittle so upon firing, the necks may split before they seal the throat of a chamber. Probably not a good idea to make the entire case from stainless.
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