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I didnt post prices for two reasons. 1) I didnt want it to impact folks decisions for the input. 2) If I decide to sell an entire upper it is nicer to have a clean slate on the marketplace if that makes sense. Been down that road with friends before, talk about how you got something for x price knowing its worth y. Then you sell it and ask somewhere between x and y and that get butt hurt. Not worth it to me. I shot the monster today and to be honest I love it. Havent shot the other yet as we are headed out for some 4th activities. I am thinking I may end up selling the sanders and get a Lilja, PFA, or Krieger cut and ready for me.
Im going to change this again, Krieger, PFA, or Lilja. I know all are great, talk me into one at 20. Maybe fluted but I dont think the money is worth it to me.
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I got the lilja straight from them, their 20" and love it. model 740 I think.
I'm partial to 20" for some added range.
Then 16" for the monster as your second... easy to carry around.
Or I guess, like me (remember the 20's) I've got a second 20-er; this time a bolt action howa.
Both great ones.
I have another 20" barrel as my spare for AR frame in case something goes wrong with what I've got...
Now for the wisdom: in these days it's easier to buy it, and not need it, than to want it, and can't get it.
My 2 cts.
ps I have one fluted but to be honest it doesn't save much weight.
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07-03-2021, 12:12 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-03-2021, 12:30 AM by Klem.)
I agree with GF,
If you have a limited budget have a perfect gun with spare barrels, as opposed to multiple guns with average components.
Lilja lists the weight difference between fluted and non-fluted. You pay $100 for almost no weight saving. Up to you but I won't do it again.
Kreiger, Bartlein and Lilja are all Olympic-grade barrel makers. The likelihood a barrel from them will be a hummer is high, and a dud low. For other manufacturers you might get a hummer but the likelihood is less so it's all a gamble with predictable odds.
18-20 inches is a good compromise length for an AR in this calibre. Lilja's 319 is actually 18.8" so closer to 19".
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I have a 16 and 18 inch Grendel. Both similar set ups with Faxon BCG and Barrel. Both have an advantage over the other in different situations. Pick and chose your battles.
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Thanks for the input fellas. Gonna spend some more cash. Yall talked me into it.
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I bought an 18 to begin with, but ended up with a 20 and no muzzle device. Same length, similar weight and balance, 2 more inches of barrel for a little more velocity. Also, the muzzle device tends to throw a good bit of sound upward, which ends up back in my ears when fired from a shooting house with a long roof overhang. 24 just seemed too long of a barrel on an AR for me. I dont care for the shooting house for my purposes, but its easiest to setup the kids in for whom I built the rifle
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Grayfox,
Your like me always building stuff and changing it around. I am doing the opposite as you and changing one of mine from a Monster 20" to a Faxon 20" fluted Match Barrel, I purchased it from a guy over on the 6mmArc site. He claimed the barrel only had 8 rounds fired through it. I believe him after bore scoping, it had absolutely zero throat erosion and the gas port had almost zero flame burn, and just a couple small streaks of copper in it. The barrel was as smooth as my Odin barrel, like it had been hand lapped, I couldn't find any machine marks in it. Just hope it shoots as good as it looks.
I have another Faxon 20" it is not a match grade barrel, but it has a short chamber in it and it shoots well. That is why I picked up on this one, I am hoping that it has a short chamber. I have found that the short chamber rifles are shooting more accurate, at least in the 6mm range. Even though the chamber is short you still have a substantial jump, but it's not .120 to .140 loaded to mag length.
Aren't these hobbies fun!