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I have a question for anyone who has built an AR15 SBR and gotten a permit for it.
Okay, I live in Florida.I want an AR15 pistol, probably 7.5 inch barrel. But my wrist has bone chips in it.I cant handle much recoil until I get surgery. So Im thinking I would like to take an AR 15 pistol lower and put an AR15 rifle stock on it so the recoil will be impacted on my shoulder not wrist.
I know having a barrel shorter than 16 inches with a rifle stock turns it into a short barreled rifle,SBR. I know I need to get a permit for it. And even though I looked it up online,Im not really sure how to go about it.
I think there are guys on 6.5 Grendel.com who have the answer. Probably LRRPF52. Anyway Id like to know how to go about doing this before I build it. I know an FFL would have the answer. But Im asking you guys first ,because at this point its just a thought. And I really am not sure if it would be worth the bother of having to go through all the red tape.
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Id also like alternatives to getting an SBR permit,like a pistol brace that goes around the fore arm. Something that could stop the recoil from impacting my wrist. I do not own an AR 15 pistol. But Id like a 7.5 inch barrel for home defense because it would be handy. Id be putting my 7.62 suppressor on it.Hell, I might even take it hog hunting.
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I live in Florida. I built an sbr. You just have to fill out the atf form 1 and send them $200. Then wait to get it approved and the stamp back before you can build it. Don't know the current wait times but it took about 5 months when i did it a few years ago. You can do it in a trust or as an individual which you can look up pros and cons on. But on a side note, i don't know a suppressor that will say it can be used on a 7.5" grendel. Their might be one but my ultra 7 won't
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Bigs28 Wrote:I live in Florida. I built an sbr. You just have to fill out the atf form 1 and send them $200. Then wait to get it approved and the stamp back before you can build it. Don't know the current wait times but it took about 5 months when i did it a few years ago. You can do it in a trust or as an individual which you can look up pros and cons on. But on a side note, i don't know a suppressor that will say it can be used on a 7.5" grendel. Their might be one but my ultra 7 won't I didnt mention the caliber. Its 300 BO.I wouldnt use a 6.5 Grendel for home defense.
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Same process. Just fill out form 1
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Pistol braces work well. The new Tailhook 2 I verry solid and adjustable for length of pull. Form 1 for a sbr if that's what you want. Lots of folks put a pistol brace on till the paperwork comes back. Then install a stock.
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Thanks for your advice.
I called ATF. If I do an Eform 1, Then send the prince and photos within a week,the whole process should take 45 days,as of now.
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The form is easy. But the lower you use is always an sbr so you will have to notify atf if taking across state lines and stuff
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I went down to see my buddy at the Tactical shop.He said there are some braces that you could shoulder as a rifle stock and you dont need an ATF stamp for. I was told that as long as they have a strap on them its considered a brace.And if you shoulder it ,oh well.
If what they told me at the Tactical shop is true ,that might be the route Id rather take. But like I originally said this is just to thought. Thats why I brought it up for discussion so I can get feedback and different opinions.
What I already dont like about getting an SBR stamp ,is that I am limited to the caliber I register it under. If my tax stamp states SBR 300 blackout I cant change the SBR upper to 6.5 Grendel down the road .At least thats how I understood it.
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To be clear if you build the firearm with the intent to shoulder it's a rifle and if it has the 7 inch barrel it's an sbr regardless of whether it's a "brace" or a "stock". I have an ar pistol and an sbr. The definition is based on intent. My ar pistol was built with the intention of being used as a pistol and situationally i might shoulder it.
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It's all silly. But the definitions are clear.
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I have AR pistols in 223, 9mm, 300, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62x39, and 308 for a total of 9 pistols. 9x$200= $1800 of my money the government doesn't need. Braces work well and are a lot less money in the long run. Less government involvement in where I can take the pistols.
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Thanks Bigs, I get it.
And yes it is all silly.But I prefer to be safe and legal.
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Shooterrex Wrote:I have AR pistols in 223, 9mm, 300, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62x39, and 308 for a total of 9 pistols. 9x$200= $1800 of my money the government doesn't need. Braces work well and are a lot less money in the long run. Less government involvement in where I can take the pistols. You make a good point.The sensible thing for me to do is build an AR pistol and put a brace on it. I can take it from there.
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Bigs28 Wrote:To be clear if you build the firearm with the intent to shoulder it's a rifle and if it has the 7 inch barrel it's an sbr regardless of whether it's a "brace" or a "stock". I have an ar pistol and an sbr. The definition is based on intent. My ar pistol was built with the intention of being used as a pistol and situationally i might shoulder it.
Could you explain the 7 rule or what you are referencing? I thought anything under 16 barrel was pistol (with a brace and intent) or sbr with stamp.
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03-25-2020, 01:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-25-2020, 01:38 AM by Bigs28.)
Earlier he said he wanted to build his with a 7" 300bo barrel. My comment was specific to this particular build
Edit he said 7.5" barrel
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FLshooter Wrote:You make a good point.The sensible thing for me to do is build an AR pistol and put a brace on it. I can take it from there.
Sba4 pistol brace is what you seek.
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A5BLASTER Wrote:Sba4 pistol brace is what you seek. Thank you.
I found an SB tactical SBA4 AR 15 pistol brace and ordered it for just under $120 delivered on Optics Planet.
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I have a question for anyone is it legal to have 5.56 for home defense
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Lol..
Yes...but with that question you might want to ask yourself a few questions...another thread though..
On the Sbr deal, I think everyone should have at least one..
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