Hello!
Sorry for my english (google to help me).
I want to greet the most shooting country in the world! Your experience is truly invaluable!
Not much about myself, I live in Moscow, Russia.
I am the proud owner of Grendel. In my closet are two CZ 527 "american" and "varmint MTR" rifles. I twist rounds, go hunting, shoot at paper. Achieved not bad results in accuracy. I hope to gain even more knowledge ("century live, century learn" - is a Russian proverb)
Welcome to the forum chiefprint! Your the first member I remember seeing from Russia. This forum has members from numerous countries and has some very knowledgeable members. Looks like your Czs are good shooters and I also own a Cz 527 American with 24 inch barrel.
Dear Klem! I collect ammunition myself. We only have one type of 6.5 Grendel produced. I use Lapua and Honardy cartridges. Bullets: Lapua Scenar 139 gr., Nosler RDF 130, Nosler Custom Competition 140, Honardy SST 123. I use what I can buy in Europe when I'm there. Unfortunately, stores in the United States do not send bullet and casings to Russia. I bought the equipment in Titanreloading without any problems.
Interesting...How did you hear about this calibre?
Can you get powder and primers in Russia or do you import them?
We have a lot of literature on weapons and ammunition. There was a good article in the Kalashnikov magazine. But the cartridge is not new created in the late 90's of the 2000s. And based on the Russian cartridge 7,62x39.
I use Russian-made primers and powder. Importing is difficult. Powder similar in characteristics to Vihtavuori N135, but less stable.
chiefprint Wrote:Dear Klem! I collect ammunition myself. We only have one type of 6.5 Grendel produced. I use Lapua and Honardy cartridges. Bullets: Lapua Scenar 139 gr., Nosler RDF 130, Nosler Custom Competition 140, Honardy SST 123. I use what I can buy in Europe when I'm there. Unfortunately, stores in the United States do not send bullet and casings to Russia. I bought the equipment in Titanreloading without any problems.
Privyet!
Russia doesnt allow shipping into Russia if the cost of the goods including shipping fees exceed $100.
This is not entirely true. I calmly bought goods on Amazon, too. I bought a press, dies, neck grooving, shell trimming. I ordered all the equipment in the United States. It costs much more than $ 100. Deliver any goods other than bullets and shell casings.
chiefprint Wrote:We have a lot of literature on weapons and ammunition. There was a good article in the Kalashnikov magazine. But the cartridge is not new created in the late 90's of the 2000s. And based on the Russian cartridge 7,62x39.
I use Russian-made primers and powder. Importing is difficult. Powder similar in characteristics to Vihtavuori N135, but less stable.
Chief,
Excellent! N135 is in between our 8208 and H4895. I use 8208 for bullets up to 120gn and H4895 for heavier than 120.
What do you mean by less stable; does it give good accuracy?
chiefprint Wrote:This is not entirely true. I calmly bought goods on Amazon, too. I bought a press, dies, neck grooving, shell trimming. I ordered all the equipment in the United States. It costs much more than $ 100. Deliver any goods other than bullets and shell casings.
Do you own a business and have those types of items shipped there, or to your residence?
Maybe some online retailers are following that impression of the $100 limit since there are 30% customs duties on anything between $100-$1000.
When I asked several of the people I lived with there for an address, they chuckled and didnt want to talk about it. Most of the mail boxes were ripped out of the walls in the apartment buildings I visited in Moscow region, even on new high-rise apartment construction that wasnt finished.
There might have been one apartment complex in an upscale neighborhood in Moscow that didnt have the mail boxes ripped out. Those people had a huge apartment filled with books on dead languages. They regularly traveled to China as well.
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Excellent! N135 is in between our 8208 and H4895. I use 8208 for bullets up to 120gn and H4895 for heavier than 120.
What do you mean by less stable; does it give good accuracy?
Do you hunt with it?
Klem!
Less stability of Russian powder is that, for example, with the same hitches, the speed is different. And there is a difference between the series and the series. But the accuracy in my opinion is good.
Yes, I hunt with Grendel mainly small game, Fox, ROE deer. I go Groundhog hunting.
You wrote that VV N135 is very similar to the American powders 8208 and H4895. I am very interested in this question of the similarity of powders from different manufacturers. But perhaps this should be discussed in another topic.
LRRPF52 Wrote:Do you own a business and have those types of items shipped there, or to your residence?
Maybe some online retailers are following that impression of the $100 limit since there are 30% customs duties on anything between $100-$1000.
When I asked several of the people I lived with there for an address, they chuckled and didnt want to talk about it. Most of the mail boxes were ripped out of the walls in the apartment buildings I visited in Moscow region, even on new high-rise apartment construction that wasnt finished.
There might have been one apartment complex in an upscale neighborhood in Moscow that didnt have the mail boxes ripped out. Those people had a huge apartment filled with books on dead languages. They regularly traveled to China as well.
Dear LRRPF52!
Russian post does not deliver goods to mailboxes. Either by courier, or you get a notification and personally come to the office and get it.
As for broken mailboxes - hooligans, where are they not?!
10-15-2020, 11:10 PM (This post was last modified: 10-15-2020, 11:13 PM by Klem.)
chiefprint Wrote:Klem!
Less stability of Russian powder is that, for example, with the same hitches, the speed is different. And there is a difference between the series and the series. But the accuracy in my opinion is good.
Yes, I hunt with Grendel mainly small game, Fox, ROE deer. I go Groundhog hunting.
You wrote that VV N135 is very similar to the American powders 8208 and H4895. I am very interested in this question of the similarity of powders from different manufacturers. But perhaps this should be discussed in another topic.
Chief,
Are there a lot of hand-loaders in Russia? Sorry for the questions but you are the first to identify yourself as from there so it's all interesting.
Hodgdon in America buys powders from Canada and Australia and rebrands them with their own labels. IMR8208 XBR is made in Australia, where it is called BenchMark8208 or BM8208. H4895 is also made in Australia where it is called 2206H. Canada makes an equivalent powder which is called IMR4895. So H4895 and IMR4895 are similar powders but not the same. Both Canada and Australia make them to the same spec sheet but they are different chemical formulations. They have slightly different pressure and tem-stability characteristics. Australian Defense Industries (ADI) makes single-based powders only whereas IMR in Canada (originally Dupont owned, and now Hodgdon owns it) is geared up for double-based powders.
The Australian company is going through a major upgrade of its factory in Mulwala in New South Wales. Until now it's been pretty much the same factory since World War II. This upgrade is taking over a year and explains the shortages of ADI/Hogdgon's powders around the world - plus the Pandemic of course.
I live in Australia and there is no Hodgdon's powder available here. It would make no sense to export it to the US and import it back into Australia. So ADI retails powders here under its own label and they are everywhere because they are cheaper. Everything else has to be freighted from Europe and Canada which makes them more expensive.
I imagine where you live makes a big difference as to what powder is available and the price of it.
. I bought the equipment in Titanreloading without any problems.
