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so I have 3 lbs of lever, 3 lbs of cfe223, I like both of these ,any other options that a guy can find?? Like extruded powders normally.. live in the pnw so can be cool one day and hot the next... temp sensitive would be choice...thanks shooting 120-130 gr pills
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H4895, h322, ar-comp and varget but varget will be slower then the others I listed.
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120-123's I like AR-comp.
For lighter, 100- to maybe 120, 8208 xbr. Have to be careful in the 120 class with 8208 however, it can spike quickly up around the 28.0-ish max book loads. Still lots of guys use it for them successfully. Work up loads for your barrel, don't just jump in at max.
You don't say what barrel length or type you're shooting. For some bolt actions you might be able to use a longer Coal which will possibly reduce your peak pressures.
Also, what is hot and what is cold.... if you're loading at 79* and temps go from 40-90, not much effect imo on hunting distances if you're on a good node.
1Shot on here uses the 120 pro hunter, deer-slayer in his neck of the woods.
Have you bought the Grendel hand books, vol 1 and 2, they have lots of info and loads in there. In the vendor section on here, AR15 build box website.
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+1 on AR-Comp. It's right beside the IMR 8208 XBR on the burn charts ( http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2018...hart-here/). It's close to being universal powder for Grendels if there were such a thing. Little slow for the real light bullets. Not too temp sensitive, I think "Vascar" posted about being .77fps per degree of change,,,I think that's right, but don't go to the bank with that  . I've also used H 335 a little, but the AR-Comp works so well for me with the 123 gr bullets, I don't bother to experiment much. I like it better than the CFE223.
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How is TAC?
I use it for 223/556/308 loads..would be nice to Have 1 powder For all 3
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Tac is accurate powder but will not produce as much velocity as other powders like AR Comp, IMR8208XBR, CFE223 or Leverevolution. Tac is more sensitive to temperature change since it is a ball powder. The data online I found suggest TAC changes .92 FPS per degree, better than CFE223 but CFE223 produces higher velocity.
Ive used TAC with 95 grain V-Max, very accurate and meters well. Western uses a 20 barrel in their load data for 6.5 Grendel, max load 28.2 of TAC with Sierra 123 grain Match King produces 2424 FPS. My 20 6.5 Grendel will produce 2500-2525 FPS at 75 degrees with 31.0 grains of CFE223 with CCI 450 primers. On Western burn rate chart TAC is on the same line with Accurate 2495, RL 12, H-335 and Norma 202.
TAC is in the middle between slower burning Accurate 2520 and TAC is slower burning than Accurate 2230/Exterminator which is pretty fast.
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Had mentioned powder flame temp, not burn rate, in a previous post, but think its worth noting again, as related to longevity of barrel and throat life, not just the typical accuracy, velocity, burn rate, flexibility of nodes, etc comments we all pay attention to. AR Comp burns about 200 degrees cooler than its primary competition, giving me yet another reason to recommend it, along with the fact it works in 223/556, 22-250, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 CM with light bullets and 308 as well.
N140: 3720
AR Comp: 3740
N130: 3770
748: 3840
Benchmark: 3900
CFE223: 3920
XBR 8208: 3920
TAC: 3950
H335: 3980
BLC2: 3990
H322: 4000
H4895: 4060
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VASCAR2 Wrote:Tac is accurate powder but will not produce as much velocity as other powders like AR Comp, IMR8208XBR, CFE223 or Leverevolution. Tac is more sensitive to temperature change since it is a ball powder. The data online I found suggest TAC changes .92 FPS per degree, better than CFE223 but CFE223 produces higher velocity.
Ive used TAC with 95 grain V-Max, very accurate and meters well. Western uses a 20 barrel in their load data for 6.5 Grendel, max load 28.2 of TAC with Sierra 123 grain Match King produces 2424 FPS. My 20 6.5 Grendel will produce 2500-2525 FPS at 75 degrees with 31.0 grains of CFE223 with CCI 450 primers. On Western burn rate chart TAC is on the same line with Accurate 2495, RL 12, H-335 and Norma 202.
TAC is in the middle between slower burning Accurate 2520 and TAC is slower burning than Accurate 2230/Exterminator which is pretty fast.
Thanks.
Had to sell my reloading setup unfortunately years ago and looking to get some stuff stashed.
Ill think Ill pick up some , as it works for a few calibers Im loading.
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