Muzzle brake advice!

[Hayden9801]

Needing to buy a muzzle break. Looking for recommendations or ones to stay away from. Thanks for any help in advance!

[Red*Lion]

Aero Precision has some quality muzzle devices.

[A5BLASTER]

The very best is going to be the PA hypertap, belive that's it's name. I have one on my cz grendel. It beat out the fourm champ that was the m4-72 severe duty.

It's loud and expensive.

Just about any 30 cal brake will work really.

[maxxmojo]

I'd say it depends on what you're going to be doing with the rifle. So far I've been happy using boring old A2's for a generic muzzle device.

[DL42]

In my opinion, keeping gas out of your face is just as valuable as recoil management. Midwest industries AR two chamber muzzle brake works amazing imo, and its under $40 to boot.

[grayfox]

Thee are some good studies on MBs for several calibers. I tried the M4-72, too much backwash -- like a prop-wash to me.
I also have an APA lil B*rd, which is what lots of PRS finalists use.
But the one I have settled on is the VG6 gamma series, for 6.5's Grendel and Creed, and 3 or 4 other calibers, I've lost count. Wonderfully engineered, and affordable. $51-70 depending on where you look.
Designed with CAD - computational fluid dynamics if you're into that sort of stuff.
Outstanding performance.

Always wear hearing protection even w/o a MB, but definitely when you do use them.

One more thing, don't use crush washers and peel's, use a threaded jam-nut and a little bit of loktite blue. Use of the crush washers all too often puts an uneven torque on the muzzle and can cause accuracy problems. Another way is to use the Accuwashers, they are square up and varying thickness so you can time the MB easily. But I use almost exclusively a jam nut now for all of mine.
Armorally.com has best prices for the VG6's. The gamma's, not epsilons (anyway that's what I recommend).

[DDRanch]

Plus a BIG one for VG6 gamma series, probably own at least 7 or 8 of them. using them on my Grendel's and AR's

[Hayden9801]

I almost bought that VG6 GAMMA last night. But wanted to wait to pull the trigger on it unroll I heard some reviews

[Hayden9801]

Thee are some good studies on MBs for several calibers. I tried the M4-72, too much backwash -- like a prop-wash to me.
I also have an APA lil B*rd, which is what lots of PRS finalists use.
But the one I have settled on is the VG6 gamma series, for 6.5's Grendel and Creed, and 3 or 4 other calibers, I've lost count. Wonderfully engineered, and affordable. $51-70 depending on where you look.
Designed with CAD - computational fluid dynamics if you're into that sort of stuff.
Outstanding performance.

Always wear hearing protection even w/o a MB, but definitely when you do use them.

One more thing, don't use crush washers and peel's, use a threaded jam-nut and a little bit of loktite blue. Use of the crush washers all too often puts an uneven torque on the muzzle and can cause accuracy problems. Another way is to use the Accuwashers, they are square up and varying thickness so you can time the MB easily. But I use almost exclusively a jam nut now for all of mine.
Armorally.com has best prices for the VG6's. The gamma's, not epsilons (anyway that's what I recommend).

Thank you so much for the detailed info that was exactly what i was looking for and the website info.

[Hayden9801]

Has anyone tried the Gamma 65 BBSS OR THE Lambda PRE BBSS? Or explain the cut and dry difference between the 3 besides price.

[lazyengineer]

Thee are some good studies on MBs for several calibers. I tried the M4-72, too much backwash -- like a prop-wash to me.
I also have an APA lil B*rd, which is what lots of PRS finalists use.
But the one I have settled on is the VG6 gamma series, for 6.5's Grendel and Creed, and 3 or 4 other calibers, I've lost count. Wonderfully engineered, and affordable. $51-70 depending on where you look.
Designed with CAD - computational fluid dynamics if you're into that sort of stuff.
Outstanding performance.

Always wear hearing protection even w/o a MB, but definitely when you do use them.

One more thing, don't use crush washers and peel's, use a threaded jam-nut and a little bit of loktite blue. Use of the crush washers all too often puts an uneven torque on the muzzle and can cause accuracy problems. Another way is to use the Accuwashers, they are square up and varying thickness so you can time the MB easily. But I use almost exclusively a jam nut now for all of mine.
Armorally.com has best prices for the VG6's. The gamma's, not epsilons (anyway that's what I recommend).

Concure with this. In my own experience, I like to keep my Grendel as tidy in size and weight as possible, so I actually prefer the Gamma .300 BO break, to the 6.5 Break, as it's shorter - the same dimensions as an A2 FH. It does this by being a 2 baffle break, whereas the 6.5 version is a longer (and slightly more effective) 3 baffle break. The .300 BO version (which has the correct threads to fit on most Grendel Barrels) is also sized for the slightly larger 7.62 diameter bullet. In my own experience, I don't think there's much difference, and I find the Gamma's actually too efficient, so having them leaking a little more gas (and that muzzle blast) forward, I actually prefer.

I've also found with the 6.5 Grendel, that in a 20" BBL, there's really not a lot of advantage to adding a break. The weight of the gun combined with the relatively low pressure of the round - moreso the longer the BBL - makes the net effect on a 20" BBL not very much. But shorter barreled Grendel's do indeed benefit from the breaks.

[pkw6five]

4 of us have Surefire ProComp Muzzle Brake's on .223 or .308's.
They work good. On jeremy s test they reduced recoil around 50%.
There is some correlation between recoil reduction and increased blast directed back to the shooter.
These seem to strike a nice balance.
.223 at 22:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FD-Rou9-9A
.308 at 18:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qDf6Xf0rR4

midway has them on sale for $45.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016545327?pid=876855

[LRRPF52]

I like:

TBAC brakes
Precision Firearms Muzzle Leveling Device
LaRue Tranquilo
Dead Air
JP Brakes

I will also second the advice about what types of washers to use. I really like the Precision Armament shim sets and I personally lean towards a no-torque/low torque solution as much as I can, using Red Loc-tite or Rocksett.

The LaRue Tranquilo and Dead Air brakes are surprisingly-pleasant for me to shoot for some reason, none of that obnoxious concussion effects that is common with full diameter gilled brakes.

They're a good balance between sight picture management and more pleasant muzzle blast effects.

A lot of brakes are used with the assumption that you're suppressing most of the time, so a gilled brake attach brake used in combination with the suppressor acts as another blast chamber to help reduce sound.

It's important to understand that about brakes before comparing all of them side-by-side if they are meant to be used as part of your sound suppression and muzzle blast reduction approach with a can.

[gwtx]

I agree with "lazyengineer" as far as the need for a brake to control recoil on a grendel. I have tried a few, and wound up just using a thread protector. It is much quieter for me, and for my hunting I am the only one I'm concerned about as far as noise is concerned. After 30 years in a petro chem plant, I don't hear well, but at the same time, my ears are sensitive to loud, low frequency noises. Besides, I can't tell much, if any difference in recoil or muzzle flip with or without a brake. I also like to keep the length of my rifle as short as is feasible for me. I carry on my back on a bicycle. So, it all depends on a persons "needs" for the way they use the rifle. Just my two cents,,,,to each his own. Get rigged up, and go kill some hogs
Good huntin to ya.

[AlaskaGrendel]

I'm a battlecomp fan. I have the 51.30's on mine. Shooting 2 rifles, side by side, one with a battlecomp and one with nothing I absolutely notice a difference. They're spendy, yes. Veteran owned company, great product.

[Nicky Hayden]

Im an AREA 419 fan. Look at his Hellfire System. Its really sweet and no messing with crush washers or trying to time a Brake just right. Buy one brake and then move it from gun to gun with threaded adaptors for each gun. Will also go from Brake to Suppressor in seconds. Been Super happy with 419 stuff.

Hayden.

[pinetreebbs]

I've got a couple of Jet Blast Muzzle Brakes from Patriot Valley Arms, they work.

https://patriotvalleyarms.com/jet-blast-muzzle-brake/

[BD264]

I've got a Hellfire that I run on both my 6.5 Grendel and Creedmoor. Once my suppressor gets out of alphabet jail, I'll be able to run it on both rifles with their adapter.

[Kodiak]

The gamma vg 6 has worked well for me and it looks great too. I like to use a jam nut rather than a crush washer when installing

[brando]

I’m building a 300 hamr now and I have a nomad ti in waiting. I ordered dead airs key mount brake for the new build. I’ll probably good one on my Grendel also. But I have that wci?? Brake. Anyone remember those??

I really hate to lose any accuracy by taking the wci off the 6.5 g and swapping the dead air. Anyone think it’ll have any effect at all??