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A2 Vs. Car-6
#1
Well I got my upper and lower together. Both Alexander Arms-I think earlier production. Swapped the stock/gritty trigger for an RRA Two-Stage. Put my RRA/Leupold optic on.

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This collapsing stock is new to me. Is there an advantage to having a collapser on a 20" rifle? It's what came on the lower. I am thinking of swapping the CAR stock for an A2 from Rock River. Maybe I could then sell the collapser.

I am a relative amateur here. What are the pros and cons of CAR-6 stock versus a more traditional A2?

Pete Davis


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#2
Better fit for when where thicker clothing and body armor is the usual excuses given for wobble adjustable stocks.

I personally don't like adjustable stocks.

You don't have to change out to a a2 rifle stock and buffer system. You can keep the carbine buffer system and just put a magpul fixed carbine stock on it and add the prs buttpads too it to get the proper length of pull you would like.

Are you can pull everything and install the full a2 stock and buffer system.
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#3
Personally I'm also a fan of fixed stocks vs adjustable. More stable shooting platform. The Magpul fixed Carbine stock is one way to go.

This is another https://www.strikeindustries.com/shop/pr...stock.html
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#4
The rattle is a bit unsettling. Moves just a bit when brought to the shoulder. Not a confidence builder. Thanks for insights.

Pete Davis
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#5
I like several adjustable carbines ones, all Magpul -- they're ctr (I think it's called) with a locking device and works fine no wobble IMO, also I have some MBA-carbine style also, no wobbles there. But rifle length is ok as well, mostly personal preference I guess. What's most helpful to me is to be able to get a riser cheek rest b/c I need that cheek weld to stabilize me.
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#6
I had an A2 stock. Came on rock creek lower I got on trade.Kept it for a while wound up selling it because I did not like it. I like the Magpul adjustable carbine stocks. There are several fixes for the wobble if it bothers you. Just check on YouTube.
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#7
Thanks yet again. Went to YouTube and saw the fixes. Settled on a short section of gorilla tape on the dorsal of the tube, easy and done. Lubed the outside to avoid gumming but truly, I have no intention of collapsing the stock beyond the maximum extension anyway. No movement at all now.

I am now looking at the the Limbsaver butt pad for these stocks. Softer, grippy, excellent reviews. This would complete the stock for me and be way cheaper than an A2 replacement.

Any experience with the limbsaver M4 pads? They are dearly priced but look like they are worth it.

Thanks again.

Pete Davis
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#8
The magpul styles have a soft sponge rubber pad you can get, I use those on my ctr's.
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#9
Missouri Tactical is a better deal. I am going to install this, and make a sewn heavy leather cuff to cover the beard-grabbing internals of the Car-6. Thanks to all.


https://motacpro.com/shop?olsPage=produc...recoil-pad


PDc
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#10
I have A1 stocks on 3 ARs. They're longer than fixed carbine & a skosh shorter than A2s. Beard grabbing... besides the rattle, why I don't use Car-6 stocks. Rolleyes
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#11
OK. Did a quick sight-in with the new AA upper and lower.

This is a 20" upper, I put the VLTOR flash hider on yesterday, and I replaced the stock AA trigger in the AA lower with the RRA NM Two-Stage.

The optic is a Leupold 1-4x with the heavy wire. It's really a shotgun scope but OK and it's what I have on hand. It's in RRA one piece rings and base.

The ammo is the older Wolf Gold 120 MPT loading. Ten years ago this stuff was pretty easy to get. I suspect the PPU loading is the similar loading now.

As you can see in image one I chased the strikes around the paper 3-4 at a time. The last two in the black looked good. This is only at 50 yards, off the hood of the truck with the mag well resting on a book. I plan a better bench rest next time. This is just the quick and dirty.

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I flipped the paper over and took the last five at the lower left in the gold part of the box. My vertical spread is about 7/16ths. The side-to-side spread is all me.

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I am pretty encouraged. I have ballistol-cleaned the rifle and plan to stretch out to 90-100 yds. and use a secure rest without the sun blasting me. But I couldn't wait!

Thanks for bearing with me.

Pete Davis


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#12
Pete, just remember shotgun scopes have a different parallax distance. Dave
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#13
Interesting. That might mean that my 50 yd zero would potentially be way off at 100. We'll see. PD
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#14
Pete,

Where your bullet goes on the target at any range less than 250M will be all the other usual suspects; gravity, velocity, ballistic coefficient and wind. Shooting less than 250M parallax is almost a non-issue, which is why most short-range scopes don't come with the ability to adjust it.
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#15
10-4. I am a holler dweller. 100 yds is about it. If I can get a quarter size cluster at that range, I am happy. I am certain my rifle has greater potentials that a long distance shooter could discover.

PD
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#16
Klem, that might be true enough but I have occasionally seen different. Dave
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#17
This scope is fine for what I'll be doing. I'd like to study parallax issues more if I stretch things out.

D. of course you realize. The Davis are the master race of South Wales. Masters!

PD
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