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6.5 grendel with form 1 can /w vids
#1
so my buddies been comming down to do some shooting/pest control with me and i got to try out his form 1 can vs his yhm can on my grendel a while back , ive since put in the paperwork to build my own same as his, soon as i get my aproval he gave me a list of all the stuff to order , i should have my approval before the end of the month once i have it and get all the parts i guess ill do a nice picture/build thread

but heres 2 vids with his on my grendel

from the scope
[video=youtube;8Vy0KvCb51M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vy0KvCb51M[/video]
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#2
and me filming him shooting from the ejection port side
[video=youtube;kxJnw-YxVls]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJnw-YxVls[/video]

shooting 90g tnt's at 3050fps

plenty good for me to hold me off till my tbac gets aproved in almost a year from now , damn form1 aprovals are comming back on average of 28-32days right now instead of 390+ days
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#3
How long is that thing? And you going to post a build thread for it?

Greg
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#4
GregP42 Wrote:How long is that thing? And you going to post a build thread for it?

Greg

its just shy of 10 inches i didnt build that can its my buddys can , when i get the approval back on mine i will do a build thread , i should have my approval before the end of the month and im putting in for a second one for a smaller can as well.The second one i do will be a 7 or 8 inch inch long can


in the mean time next time my buddy is over ( sometime this week ) i can take apart his can and take some pics do a lil thread on it for those interested ,, the thing is absolutely silent on his bolt gun
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#5
I would like to see it when you do. I have thought about doing one for awhile, just don't know enough to make it work right.

Greg
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#6
heres the baffle/spacer stack
not a great pic but we were in a hurry to clean it and do some shooting before the snow storm hit this weekend hes going to be back over and ill grab some better pics

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#7
I hate to ask, but those look like freeze plugs. How did he eve form them?
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#8
GregP42 Wrote:I hate to ask, but those look like freeze plugs. How did he eve form them?

theres a die for the press u can buy to form them or u can buy them pre formed, he gave me links for everything to buy im just waiting till my approval comes back
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#9
should have my stamp any day now/this comming week
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#10
Just curious. Minus the stamp what’s a setup like this cost?
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#11
Mustangfreek Wrote:Just curious. Minus the stamp what’s a setup like this cost?

on the cheap end 125$ all the way upto over 500 $ depends on the style of the baffles and materials u get.

my buddies i tried out is an aluminium tube with titainium endcaps and stainless baffles its on the low end side of cost
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#12
Ok on like a decent kit, not ti
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#13
Mustangfreek Wrote:Ok on like a decent kit, not ti

my parts list for mine reads like this

55$ for the tube
60$ for Ti qd adapter
50$ for qd muzzlebrake / 1-13/16 qd adapter
24$ for end cap
47.95$ for stainless baffles

still waiting on cost for Ti stock to make my own spacers

parts availabilty on some of the stuff seems to be hit or miss atm just like everything else gun related atm , been keeping tabs on parts since i should be able to come get all my stuff comming here very shortly not buying anything till my damn stamp is aproved
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#14
stamp in and parts ordered for mine , i gota find somone to engrave the body when all the stuff gets here
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#15
another video
[video=youtube;xXemAZVqFd0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXemAZVqFd0[/video]
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#16
mel Wrote:my parts list for mine reads like this

55$ for the tube
60$ for Ti qd adapter
50$ for qd muzzlebrake / 1-13/16 qd adapter
24$ for end cap
47.95$ for stainless baffles

still waiting on cost for Ti stock to make my own spacers

parts availabilty on some of the stuff seems to be hit or miss atm just like everything else gun related atm , been keeping tabs on parts since i should be able to come get all my stuff comming here very shortly not buying anything till my damn stamp is aproved

Good places for parts?

Thanks
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#17
Mustangfreek Wrote:Good places for parts?

Thanks

ill drop ya a pm when i get out of work today
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#18
How long it take you to get the form 1 stamp
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#19
Hayden9801 Wrote:How long it take you to get the form 1 stamp

24 days iirc
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#20
On Form 1 - there are a couple of important "tips" on completing your Form 1 so that your approval goes smoothly at/about 3-4 weeks from submittal.

in short form:

1. Fingerprint Cards - I get mine free from my Sheriff's Office - they do digital - and I get multiple copies. One card is needed per application. "Some" order a Amazon "FD-258 Applicant Kit" from Amazon like $15 for a 5-Pack w/Ink but that's not me.

2. Digital photo of yourself per ATF spec

3. Join: form1suppressor.boards.net - the "Old Timers" there are like alligators so don't post a "newbie" thing - but the reason to join is to search/read forum posts for the IMPORTANT TIPS on completing the online application that will make approval smooth 3-4 weeks - WITHOUT those IMPORTANT TIPS your application can go into "Research" which can take 3-4 months. Form 1 Application fee is $200.
Note - the ATF online application is kindof "wonky" like it was put together in MSDOS day's - another reason to read/understand - even print out hard copy of the IMPORTANT tips.

3. You are free to order components BEFORE Form 1 is approved - but under ATF guidelines you can ONLY machine/complete your Suppressor AFTER you get Form 1 approval back - which ATF emails that to you.

4. There are domestic sources for components that do not require you to have Form 1 to order unfinished components - and there are multiple China "solvent trap" suppliers - or referenced as "Napa 4003" or "WIX 24003" .
There "well engineered" domestic suppliers that have solid designs - and to be fair for that engineering and quality of the components - those "good" domestic designs can be mid-range pricey in $200-$300 range
There are some domestic suppliers of "cheaper kits" - which originally started as "lower cost" rimfire kits - but many "cheap guys" now use/kindof for centerfire.
There are "cheap" kits from China - best variety of those listed on Ali-Express - with a range of 6"-8" variety of styles from USD$20-USD$40 - if a Ali Vendor posts "ships from US stock" that a white lie = they ship from China and when it hits US delivery is taken over by USPS - assume 3-4 week delivery on anything.
There are some more decent China stuff - mono-cores require one heck of a long drill bit - however there are some 8" and 10" modular designs that are quite trick/solid. Please understand "Titanium" in Chinese description most often refers to the color of the finish - and there are GR5 titanium kits available which are pricey but about 50% of a US titanium design.
China is also making "drill guides" and "drill jigs" as upside accessories for several of the modular (MST or AST) designs as well.

One example of a decent modular 10" kit: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10050019...4c4d2R5520

I spent about 15yrs in HK and South China - and I have obsession about "parts" - can't you tell !

5. Since 6.5 is the caliber - once you machine for that - it covers you for rimfire-5.56 as well.

6. Once machined you also need to engrave your suppressor - some use a Dremel - but several of my local gunsmith's have laser engraver's and for like USD$30 they do a bang up job and looks professional.

7. Quick mounts are a separate subject - the reason for a Quick Mount is to let you pull off a Hot Suppressor with a 1/4 or 1/2 turn so you can let it cool down separately when you are packing up.

Have fun with it
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