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Landowner called and said hogs had hit his place again. I showed up that night and saw a single hog out in the field with his cattle and opted to go after it. What I didn't see is all the hogs coming over the hill from behind the barnyard/house area. The hogs were among the cattle and behind the cattle. I had a house and buildings immediately to my left. Wind was not favorable. The cows had noticed me. I figured the hogs would at any time...
[video=youtube_share;HO3PFKnD25E]https://youtu.be/HO3PFKnD25E[/video]
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Way to be patient and snipe around valuable cattle
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Remarkable! It seems like there are similar concerns as in a hostage situation, not shooting the bystanders to get at the threat, rules of engagement.
Any bounty for hogs?
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Another great video , thanks .
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Lemonaid Wrote:Remarkable! It seems like there are similar concerns as in a hostage situation, not shooting the bystanders to get at the threat, rules of engagement.
Any bounty for hogs?
I had never thought of it like that, but I see what you mean. Safety is always important. Different folks have different ideas on what they consider to be safe. Some folks I know would never shoot around cattle at all with a variety of reasons for justification, which are not invalid. I don't have a problem with shooting at hogs beyond the cattle or to the side of cattle, but I don't want cattle beyond the hogs. I prefer to not see any cattle in my FOV when I am pulling the trigger, but that isn't always possible.
Had we been team shooting, it would probably have been a "one shot and one shot only" situation where each shooter picks a different target in a safe direction of fire and each shoot at the same time and then see how the situation pans out. After the shot, we would reassess to see if the hogs deconflict from the cattle or not (sorry, reading about air traffic control issues) and the person in charge makes the call. "One shot and one shot only" shooting situations are done in situations where there are narrow safe field(s) of fire such that shots that deviate from the opening salvo might be problematic. So regardless of whether your hog runs off or not, you don't pull the trigger a second time until the person in charge makes the call.
Most of my landowners have themselves shot at coyotes or hogs in and around cattle and understand what is involved and the necessity of the situation. It is like one said to me. He said it was like shooting a single doe from a group of deer when you have only one tag left and the game warden is your hunting partner. You can only legally hit one. If you hit more than one, you get into trouble. So you pick your shot carefully.
Bounty? Not any place I hunt.
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evidently the suppressors help tremendously. growing up if we ever shot in a field with cattle, we usually ended up rounding up cattle and fixing fence...
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03-29-2020, 01:52 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-29-2020, 01:58 AM by rickt300.)
I don't have thermal so all my shots are one shot and done as it is hard to see what happens after a shot due to the muzzle flash in front of the scope. I also almost always try to make head or neck hits with the occasional high shoulder spine hit. The last three times I was out I have been in and around cows every time I saw hogs. In fact I often check the area around the cows out first. That said this year I have only taken 8 hogs since 2020 began and 2 of them were with snares. China virus has saddled me with my grandkids and I don't think they are up to sneaking around in the dark after pigs. As for shooting spooking the cows several times I have had them come check me out after firing my 223 bolt gun but often they just move a little bit or act like nothing happened. Maybe Texas cows are less spooky than Oregon cows.
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Good shooting! Around here it seems the hogs have started using the deer as cover. When a dozen or more deer stand between you and the hogs it's hard to get a shot. And once the deer start blowing and stamping the hogs now know its time to take off. At least the cows kinda stand there.
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Quote:Maybe Texas cows are less spooky than Oregon cows.
Cattle herds on my different properties all seem to have different personalities. Some will let you walk between them like one of their own. Others will spook and mini stampede if you enter the pasture where they are. We have had cattle try to drive off the hogs when we entered the pasture (which was really odd). I have had cattle follow me around like puppies. I made the mistake of scratching one behind the ears once and it thought we should be best friends as it followed me everywhere and would bump me to get me to pay attention to it. It was young, maybe only 800 or 900 lbs, but what a cow considers to be a bump for attention can knock you off your feet, LOL. I have been chased by bulls a couple of times, but for the most part, they are not an issue. Like the video above, I appreciate the herds that largely just ignore me or slowly move away.
