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6mm ARC
#81
MONSTER barrels have a gas journal length of about 1.30. This accomodates the vast majority of 1.0" gas blocks up to the JP adjustable at 1.3.

An A2 front sight tower requires 1.9", but I haven't seen one of those since 1972. KIDDING! Cool
:: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

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#82
BluntForceTrauma Wrote:I'm thinking of starting on the short end: MONSTER 12 and MONSTER 16 in 6mmARC. My button on order has a 1:7 twist to stabilize up to 110gr 6mm at short barrel velocities at 0° and 0 ft. altitude. SAAMI is 1:7.5 so it's not THAT different, but just enough to be ideal for short 6mmARC barrels.

Now you're talking, I'm all in for one of those 12" pipes.
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#83
[FONT=&amp]The 6mmARC is gonna be a 224 Valkyrie killer — despite the 224V being a very good design in itself.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]SAAMI spec for 224V lists a 90gr @ 2,700 fps.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]SAAMI spec for 6mmARC lists a 108gr @ 2,700 fps.[/FONT]

Berger's classic 6mm 105gr Hybrid has a 0.536 BC.

[FONT=&amp]Berger’s new .224 85.5gr Hybrid has a 0.524 BC.
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[FONT=&amp]Berger’s new 6mm 109gr Hybrid has a 0.568 BC.

Both of those bullets — to Berger's credit — are amazing bullets.[/FONT]


[FONT=&amp]Launched at roughly the same muzzle velocity, however, there’s no way the lower BC bullet is gonna catch the higher BC bullet.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]If a competitor is looking for every little edge at long range in an AR, the 6mmARC has it.[/FONT]
:: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

:: I Drank the Water :: Revelation 21:6 ::
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#84
Sending the 224V to barrel-valhalla.....
poetic!
"Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"
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#85
Interesting!

I may rebarrel a 18" 6.5G upper I'm not currently using...
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#86
Huckleberry75 Wrote:18" or 20" for compact hunter builds

Same here, leaning 18”
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#87
Designed perfectly for today's long-range shooting from an AR platform.

Dimensionally-correct illustration attached showing 6mmARC at COL of 2.260 loaded with a Berger 6mm 105gr Hybrid Target bullet (G1 BC 0.536).


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:: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

:: I Drank the Water :: Revelation 21:6 ::
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#88
Thinking about the 6mmARC inspired me to again pester Berger for a new generation of 6.5mm 120 bullets. See attached, which I posted on Berger's Twitter feed. (Why should 6mm get all the love? Cool )

Using one of Berger's existing hybrid ogive bullet noses this 120gr should have a ballistic coefficient (BC) of about 0.595 at about 2500 fps.


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:: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

:: I Drank the Water :: Revelation 21:6 ::
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#89
BluntForceTrauma Wrote:Thinking about the 6mmARC inspired me to again pester Berger for a new generation of 6.5mm 120 bullets. See attached, which I posted on Berger's Twitter feed. (Why should 6mm get all the love? Cool )

Using one of Berger's existing hybrid ogive bullet noses this 120gr should have a ballistic coefficient (BC) of about 0.595 at about 2500 fps.

I like it.

On a side note my 6mm ARC barrel should ship tommorw.
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#90
At this point Hornady seems more innovative, maybe they would like to challenge Berger's market share? with a newer better hpbt...
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#91
Berger ... Hornady ... anybody. This weight class is ripe for the picking. Nosler could own it with a 120 version of their 130 RDF.
:: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

:: I Drank the Water :: Revelation 21:6 ::
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#92
BluntForceTrauma Wrote:Designed perfectly for today's long-range shooting from an AR platform.

Dimensionally-correct illustration attached showing 6mmARC at COL of 2.260 loaded with a Berger 6mm 105gr Hybrid Target bullet (G1 BC 0.536).


The Hornady 105 BTHP has an “advertised” G1 of .530 and you can find them readily for .20 a piece! Or, almost -40% less than the Berger’s. Not knocking the Berger’s, just saying there’s a comparable, cheap, plinking alternative already available too. Cool
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#93
Here's a new nickname for BFT: "John" of ARC!!!!!

Seriously, I have some of those 105's on hand, so if/when the ARC's show up...
"Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"
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#94
Any one have a pic of the 6ARC compared to the 6mmGR?

Thanks
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#95
No pic but the billet is .02 inches smaller diameter and .
Case body .03 inches shorter, along the same lines the case overall length is .03 shorter. Basically at a glance it will be hard to desguish one from the other
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#96
Not actual photo, but dimensionally-accurate illustration of 6mmARC compared to 6.5 Grendel.


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:: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

:: I Drank the Water :: Revelation 21:6 ::
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#97
BluntForceTrauma Wrote:Not actual photo, but dimensionally-accurate illustration of 6mmARC compared to 6.5 Grendel.

Thanks BFT!
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#98
So here I sit with two 6mm AR's -- 1 that is printing 3/8" groups with a 107 grain SMK @ 2760 fps and the other is getting interesting. Should I care about another new cartridge?
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#99
Herzo Wrote:So here I sit with two 6mm AR's -- 1 that is printing 3/8" groups with a 107 grain SMK @ 2760 fps and the other is getting interesting. Should I care about another new cartridge?

No.

Why spend more money too add complication to the loading bench to achieve what you already have.

I thought I would have my 6mm ARC barrel by now but guess things happen, so looks like I will have to find anouther barrel supplier to source a testing barrel from.
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Soooooo, BFT, is this anywhere near its grand intro?
Will we be seeing anything soon, hmmmmmmmmmmm?
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