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montana Wrote:So what is your point criticizing President Trump when the alternative is 2ndA suicide???? We all know he is not perfect, "but considering the alternative" it is an easy choice. Reminds me of the guy who constantly criticizes his new faithful wife for minor infractions, "yet still has feelings for his former wife" that was a drug addicted crack hoe riddled with std's that sold his kids to a Sierra Leone diamond mine for crack money. Crazy!
This argument reminds me of the guy who ignores his new wife's infidelities because "Hey, she still loves me, and nobody's perfect". Crazy!
But seriously, ridiculous comparisons aside, why are people so upset by calling a spade a spade?
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keystone183 Wrote:This argument reminds me of the guy who ignores his new wife's infidelities because "Hey, she still loves me, and nobody's perfect". Crazy!
But seriously, ridiculous comparisons aside, why are people so upset by calling a spade a spade?
So what is your point??? Trump is not pro gun in your view, "OK" then what?? We should not vote, vote for the dems, vote third party or what??? Bitching and complaining is easy, so what is the point of trashing Trump???
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montana Wrote:So what is your point??? Trump is not pro gun in your view, "OK" then what?? We should not vote, vote for the dems, vote third party or what??? Bitching and complaining is easy, so what is the point of trashing Trump???
This is a 2a forum on a gun board, no? So we discuss 2a issues, no? That would seem to be the point of discussing the president of the country's 2a views.
I dunno. Maybe i'm crazy.
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I get very offended when someone badmouths President Trump because what they are saying is that they would rather have one of the socialist candidates as president. And all of those socialist candidates have vowed to ban AARs within their first hundred days of the presidency .
I hired a guy for a day to unpack and separate 2 tons of chiseled edge travertine for me on my job.I used him before, he?s a good worker. But he was bad mouthing Trump after I repeatedly asked him to stop!I sent him home early and will deduct it from his pay. The way I see it you?re allowed freedom of speech. But you must suffer the consequences.
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Most gun forums have a few democrats on board and this one is probably no different.
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keystone183 Wrote:This is a 2a forum on a gun board, no? So we discuss 2a issues, no? That would seem to be the point of discussing the president of the country's 2a views.
I dunno. Maybe i'm crazy.
Once again what is your point in trashing Trump??? Whining, complaining and bitching accomplishes nothing. We all know President Trump is not perfect, we got that. Repeat we got that! So how does trashing Trump strengthen our 2ndA rights when the alternative is 2ndA suicide?? When confronted with a problem, you do what you can with what you got. Bitching and moaning, "because the situation is not perfect" accomplishes nothing. So once again, what is to be accomplished by trashing Trump??
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I get very offended when I hear people badmouth President Trump. Because that means that they would rather have one of the socialist candidates as president.And each socialist candidate has vowed to ban ARs in their first 100 days of office.
If you love your guns,you have to hate liberals.Because every liberal wants to take your guns.
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02-06-2020, 09:13 PM
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montana Wrote:Once again what is your point in trashing Trump??? Whining, complaining and bitching accomplishes nothing. We all know President Trump is not perfect, we got that. Repeat we got that! So how does trashing Trump strengthen our 2ndA rights when the alternative is 2ndA suicide?? When confronted with a problem, you do what you can with what you got. Bitching and moaning, "because the situation is not perfect" accomplishes nothing. So once again, what is to be accomplished by trashing Trump?? Awareness? God forbid we have open discussion? What is it about my awareness of trump's actions and their implications that scares you?
Do ignoring his actions and words strengthens our position? Shall we follow blindly if he were to continue to erode our 2a liberties? Just keep quiet because.....why?
ETA....I'm tired of your 'trashing trump' rhetoric. I simply provided my viewpoint, backed by ample evidence. You can deem pointing out reality as 'trashing' if you like, but that goes to your state of mind, and not mine. Thanks!
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keystone183 Wrote:Awareness? God forbid we have open discussion? What is it about my awareness of trump's actions and their implications that scares you?
Do ignoring his actions and words strengthens our position? Shall we follow blindly if he were to continue to erode our 2a liberties? Just keep quiet because.....why?
ETA....I'm tired of your 'trashing trump' rhetoric. I simply provided my viewpoint, backed by ample evidence. You can deem pointing out reality as 'trashing' if you like, but that goes to you're state of mind, and not mine. Thanks!
Once again you refuse to answer my questions. I'm all for discussion, but you keep refusing.
Trump is not pro gun in your view, "OK" then what?? We should not vote, vote for the dems, vote third party or what???
We all know President Trump is not perfect, we got that. Repeat we got that! So how does trashing Trump strengthen our 2ndA rights when the alternative is 2ndA suicide??
So once again, what is to be accomplished by trashing Trump??
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montana Wrote:Once again you refuse to answer my questions. I'm all for discussion, but you keep refusing.
Trump is not pro gun in your view, "OK" then what?? We should not vote, vote for the dems, vote third party or what???
We all know President Trump is not perfect, we got that. Repeat we got that! So how does trashing Trump strengthen our 2ndA rights when the alternative is 2ndA suicide??
So once again, what is to be accomplished by trashing Trump??
I think you just don't like my answer! Or don't understand.
There IS NO 'THEN WHAT'. I have presented my opinion. Do with it what you like!!!!
The weather in Texas in the summer is too hot. THEN WHAT! What shall I suggest you do about it?
Lets try another exercise..... President Trump is from New York. Is that trashing him?
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LR1955 Wrote:...there is no way you or Stan will convince many here that we should vote to put a Democrat in as President because Trump banned bump stocks. :confused: Stan has never tried to convince anyone to vote for a Democrat.
montana Wrote:Once again what is your point in trashing Trump??? How in your mind does citing Trump's long history of anti-2A statements and actions equate to "trashing" him?
FLshooter Wrote:I get very offended when I hear people badmouth President Trump. Yeah? How do you feel when Trump makes comments such as, " I like taking the guns early... Take the guns first, go through due process second."
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keystone183 Wrote:I think you just don't like my answer! Or don't understand.
There IS NO 'THEN WHAT'. I have presented my opinion. Do with it what you like!!!!
The weather in Texas in the summer is too hot. THEN WHAT! What shall I suggest you do about it?
Lets try another exercise..... President Trump is from New York. Is that trashing him?
When getting to the meat of the subject, you bale. Your opinion was just bitching and moaning about President Trump with zero solutions or suggestions. This is what the problem with many people today. Reminds me of a girl who was raped in our city, "and the left leaning people came together" to hold a candlelight vigil to show awareness and support for rape victims. The problem is, it solved nothing. Educating young girls about situational awareness, walking with a group at night, self defence, or God for bid, carry concealed was no where to be seen. The reason there is no solutions or suggestions is because it doesn't fit the leftist agenda of victim mentality and the need for a big brother government. Is this your reasoning or is it something else?? Discussing your opinion on Trumps anti gun agenda is fine, but refusing to give an alternative to Trump or the point of it being your main emphasis points to a different motive. So once again, how does trashing Trump strengthen our 2ndA rights when the alternative is 2ndA suicide??
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stanc Wrote::c
How in your mind does citing Trump's long history of anti-2A statements and actions equate to "trashing" him?
Yeah? How do you feel when Trump makes comments such as, "I like taking the guns early... Take the guns first, go through due process second."
Nothing wrong with it Stan. So what is your alternative solutions, other than supporting President Trump?? At this time do we support Trump or magnify his faults to help the left defeat him?? What are your solutions???
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montana Wrote:When getting to the meat of the subject, you bale. Your opinion was just bitching and moaning about President Trump with zero solutions or suggestions. This is what the problem with many people today. Reminds me of a girl who was raped in our city, "and the left leaning people came together" to hold a candlelight vigil to show awareness and support for rape victims. The problem is, it solved nothing. Educating young girls about situational awareness, walking with a group at night, self defence, or God for bid, carry concealed was no where to be seen. The reason there is no solutions or suggestions is because it doesn't fit the leftist agenda of victim mentality and the need for a big brother government. Is this your reasoning or is it something else?? Discussing your opinion on Trumps anti gun agenda is fine, but refusing to give an alternative to Trump or the point of it being your main emphasis points to a different motive. So once again, how does trashing Trump strengthen our 2ndA rights when the alternative is 2ndA suicide??
You are attempting to make something that isn't there. There will be no solutions from me or anyone else in this forum. So i guess we can shut it down? I mean seriously. NO ONE here, for trump, against trump, apathetic to trump, is going to do A THING to solve any (although i'm not even sure what the problem you're currently looking to solve is) of the problems we have currently. Period. Now what?
But, as a feeble attempt placate you......... Knowledge is power. So having a good grasp of the stance of not only your enemies, but your allies as well, can only help you. And as i posited earlier... i'm not convinced the alternative is '2a suicide'. But we could certainly have that discussion....
ETA....Also, you failed to answer MY question....
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02-06-2020, 10:19 PM
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keystone183 Wrote:.. i'm not convinced the alternative is '2a suicide'. But we could certainly have that discussion....
ETA....Also, you failed to answer MY question....
So what alternative is that?? What question did I fail to answer?? Are you a leftist supporter??
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02-06-2020, 10:23 PM
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A democratic president. At least i assume that is the alternative you were talking about. I dunno...
Its in my post. You ignored it...
ETA....LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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keystone183 Wrote:A democratic president. At least i assume that is the alternative you were talking about. I dunno...
Its in my post. You ignored it...
ETA....LOLOLOLOLOLOL
What are you getting at?? Are you a supporter of a leftist, "any democrat candidate" for president??
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You answer mine and i'll be happy to answer yours!
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keystone183 Wrote:You answer mine and i'll be happy to answer yours!
Answer what??
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Good lord.......
Donald Trump is from New York. Is that trashing him?
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