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#21
Tested both Wolf 100FMJ and Hornady American Gunner 123HPBT. Roughly speaking, both loads with bare muzzle and with devices had about the same flash signature.

Flash hider test uploaded HERE.

Let me know what you guys think.
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#22
The reduction in muzzle flash with the 3-prong vs A2 is not great, but it is noticeable.

Not sure if I would consider it enough better to justify the increase in weapon length.
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#23
Very good video BFT, makes me want to test a couple of my 6.5 Grendel AR-15’s in low light. I’m kind of curious if there is much change in flash between CFE223, Accurate 2520 and faster powders like H-335, IMR8208XBR, Accurate 2230.
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#24
stanc Wrote:Not sure if I would consider it enough better to justify the increase in weapon length.

Not sure it justifies the difference in price from an A2 at $10 to the three-prong at $35. Cool

P.S. What really amazes me is the difference for both vs. bare muzzle!
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#25
BluntForceTrauma Wrote:Not sure it justifies the difference in price from an A2 at $10 to the three-prong at $35. Cool

P.S. What really amazes me is the difference for both vs. bare muzzle!
Indeed it is amazing. Once upon a time I watched an 8" barrel 5.56 SBR fired with the Vortex flash suppressor removed.

There was a blinding, beachball-sized flash, which was almost totally eliminated when the 4-prong Vortex was reinstalled.
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#26
I'm not so sure, Stan. The flash is in my opinion very much reduced from the A2 to the 3 prong. A rather large difference between them. And both do work well from nothing. I'm impressed BFT.
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#27
Kswhitetails Wrote:I'm not so sure, Stan. The flash is in my opinion very much reduced from the A2 to the 3 prong. A rather large difference between them.
I watched it again. I concur -- the reduction in flash is more than I had thought.

Chalk it up to poor vision. I am blind in one eye, and can't hear out of the other. Wink
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#28
I've got a AAC Blackout flash hider (non-suppressor mount) on order. This has long been the number one or two flash hider in all the videos of comparison tests that I've seen.

Saw it on sale and ordered it more on a whim than anything else just to finally see for myself whether the hype is true, or not. And with a 12" 6.5 Grendel barrel. Cool

Will test once it arrives....
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#29
Just saw this BFT...…..building the same type of HD and in the Ranger/truck weapon as you have pictured....Just received (this week) my new 12" barrel and bolt....already have the AP upper without FW and 9" S type AP handguard. My lower is AP with a SB3 pistol stock.....I am using a Burris FF2 on my 10.5 5.56 pistol build. The only short coming for me is the lack of a movement on/off switch. But I do like the light wt and lo profile of the Burris unit.
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#30
Post pix when you get a chance! Cool
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#31
Here is my take on a light weight HD ar grendel.

LWRCI SIX8 recivers and pmags
Aero atlas s-one 9 inch
Magpul K grip
Magpul polymer trigger guard
Ssa-e trigger
2moa red dot
Flip up back up sights
Sixfivearms 12 inch barrel
A2 flash hider (temp)
Magpul fixed carbine

28 rounds in the mag, 1 in the chamber, wolf fmj.

Call him MR. T because "I pity da fool"


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#32
12” barrels are all well and good, but braced pistols could be made illegal at the stroke of a bureaucrats pen.
16” with stock isn’t going to be a possible legal liability should your DA decide to prosecute you for using your ‘pistol’
SBR would be perfect...assuming you live in a locality that it’s legal in, and that you don’t mind asking the kings permission to have a short barrel.

You’ll never have to worry about defending yourself with a 16” rifle.
And the ol’ A2 flash hider works pretty damned well. Shockingly well actually.
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#33
A5BLASTER Wrote:Call him MR. T because "I pity da fool"

WinkWinkWink
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#34
Grendelshooter Wrote:12” barrels are all well and good, but braced pistols could be made illegal at the stroke of a bureaucrats pen.
16” with stock isn’t going to be a possible legal liability should your DA decide to prosecute you for using your ‘pistol’
SBR would be perfect...assuming you live in a locality that it’s legal in, and that you don’t mind asking the kings permission to have a short barrel.

You’ll never have to worry about defending yourself with a 16” rifle.
And the ol’ A2 flash hider works pretty damned well. Shockingly well actually.

If it comes to all that. They can have it off the floor next too my body.
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#35
Grendelshooter Wrote:12” barrels are all well and good, but braced pistols could be made illegal at the stroke of a bureaucrats pen.

That is exactly why you buy as many as you can afford now.
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#36
[ATTACH=CONFIG]15928[/ATTACH] AP Upper/Lower, 10.5 Ballistic Adv. barrel with AP Quantum handguard mounted with a Burris FF 2 Red Dot and a Crimson Trace 900 lumen light and remote switch. Timney #3 lb trigger, Ambi safety, AP ambi charging handle, Bravo grip with spare batteries and SBA 3 pistol brace. 5.56 loaded with 65g Sierra pro hunters


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#37
[ATTACH=CONFIG]15929[/ATTACH] another of my defense weapons:

Brave Co. Upper,
Bravo BCG ion bonded
Bravo MCMR 16" handguard
MONSTER 16" Barrel and Bolt
Superlative Arms adj. gas block
Streamlight PRO TAC Laser/Light 1000 Lumen w/strobe function and remote switch
Sig back-up iron sights
Leupold 6x42 w/long range reticle
AP one piece scope mount
Radian Raptor ambi charging handle
AP lower
Battle Arms ambi safety
Geissele SSA E trigger
Battle Arms winter bolt release (all my weapons have these)
Battle Arms ADJ Pistol grip
Bravo Co. SOPMOD Stock
Loaded w/ 123g ELD M projectiles

The Pro Tac is on here for now but 6 o'clock is the only mounting position that I can get the laser function to dial in...…..ugggg Heavy and hard to zero.....I chose poorly


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#38
[ATTACH=CONFIG]15930[/ATTACH]

Aero Precision October build set in urban camo w/15" S handguard
Wilson Combat 18" hunter wt. fluted barrel
SLR adj. gas block
Brownells Grendel BCG (works very well and plays nicely with the set-up)
Velocity #3 lb. trigger
Battle Arms winter bolt release
Brave Co 4x4 Ambi Charge handle
Mag Pul MOE+ pistol grip (don't like the pull out grip insert....will replace with Bravo Co. grip)
MAG PUL CTR adj. Stock (love these stocks fits my face and doesn't rattle)
Leupold VX 6 30 mm 2x12 scope
Aero one piece mount (will swap for black eventually)

This barrel is extremely accurate for me..... and loves 123g ELD M projectiles


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#39
12" Monster Barrel and Bolt
AP slick side upper receiver
AP S 9" handguard ( keymod was a deep discount in January)
No BC yet
Raptor Ambi charging handle (to add)

Put it on a Ruger lower for now for pics and to start break-in waiting on parts for the AP lower
waiting on scratch...….for my itch LOL

The Ruger lower has:
Geissele FF enhanced trigger with the light trigger spring in place
Ambi safety
Raptor Ambi charging handle
Battle Arms winter bolt release
Ruger pistol grip
MAG PUL SLR stock


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#40
I finally got to see the flashhider video. It is enlightening. I'm signing up for one of the flash hiders when ever they come out.
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