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New Barnes Tac-TX 6.5mm offering
#21
A5BLASTER Wrote:So it's a 15 grain heavier ttsx with the same 2000 fps lower expansion limit.

Are we could look at it this way it's a 5 grain less 120 grain ttsx with the same 2000 fps lower expansion limit.

Don't get me wrong I like Barnes bullets. Love the ttsx and tac-tx but they need to get with the program and anneal it and give it a 1600 fps lower expansion limit like the LRX line and the Maker Trex bullets have.


Yes, they need to start lowering the expansion threshold to meet what their competitors are doing. No sense in making a 115 gr that opens at 2000 fps.
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#22
Ryan Farr from Barnes has confirmed the new Tac-Tx 115gr Grendel bullet will expand down to 1600 fps impact. If the G1 BC is approx .400, and muzzle velocity is 2550 fps, it will retain velocity something like this

100y - 2350 fps
150y - 2250 fps
200y - 2160 fps
250y - 2070 fps
300y - 1975 fps
350y - 1885 fps
400y - 1800 fps
450y - 1720 fps
500y - 1640 fps
550y - 1560 fps

(50F temp, 2500' elevation)
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#23
Bring it on, baby!!!
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#24
Hope they don't make us wait years for it to be avalible for a loading component.

Might try some of the ammo, if the price isn't too high.
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#25
yeah, I want the bullets. I will load them up myself...
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#26
For those in California, will they add it to the CA approved list along with the 100 and 120 gr versions?

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?...803&inline
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#27
Missed the chance to buy some of these direct at the Dallas Safari Club Show, already sold out. The rep said they do expand at 1600 and yes they are the same as the ttsx just branded differently. Interestingly he said the 100gr ttsx is the same low threshold expansion along with the 127 lrx. Would be nice if someone could confirm with them at a higher level.
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#28
Guess I need to retest some new 100gr TTSX, and the Tac-TX. Because the TTSX needed 2000fps when tested in 2017.

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthrea...-5-Grendel
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#29
My notes show 2000fps per Barnes. How can you tell the difference between the new and old 100 TTSX? I have a load for this bullet and CFE running at 2725fps out of an Alexander Arms 1:7.5 18" barrel. Would like to try the new design.
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#30
Jakal Wrote:How can you tell the difference between the new and old 100 TTSX?

For me, it was going to be date of purchase. I haven’t heard anything about Barnes changing the TTSX metallurgy. But if someone knows, please post a link.

It’s more likely that the Dallas show rep was in “sales mode” and not familiar with the details.

I never tested the Tac-TX because I assumed it to be the same as the TTSX. I guess I should add it to the collection. Especially the 115gr when it arrives.
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#31
Has anyone got a chance to shoot them yet? I ordered a few boxes but don?t have any equipment to test with.


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#32
Where'd you order your Barnes Grendel ammo from? I usually use SGAmmo.com but didn't see it there.
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#33
BluntForceTrauma Wrote:Where'd you order your Barnes Grendel ammo from? I usually use SGAmmo.com but didn't see it there.

Classic Firearm
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#34
I had updated the other thread with Barnes response to the min velocity needed for expansion on this bullet.

They told me 1500 fps on vital shoots for min expansion. Said they put the same treatment on it that they use on the LRX bullets.
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#35
I just ordered a couple boxes to test out as well. Hopefully they’ll shoot well.
peak98
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#36
Ran across this.https://shwat.com/barnes-bullets-vor-tx-...el-review/ Not much detail but he likes them.
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#37
A5BLASTER Wrote:I had updated the other thread with Barnes response to the min velocity needed for expansion on this bullet.

They told me 1500 fps on vital shoots for min expansion. Said they put the same treatment on it that they use on the LRX bullets.

That’s good news if they act more like the LRX.

But my testing showed the LRX opening up in the 1800-1900 range. Well below the TTSX, but nowhere near 1500.

Guess it means I’d better get some and melt some gels.
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#38
A short video about them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HLngwmJxW8
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#39
PF, thanks for vid link. Barnes sales guy says velocity from a "16-18-20-ish" barrel is "2600-ish", minimum expansion velocity is 1400 fps, and BC is 0.387. He says it was based on .300 Blackout bullet technology, so that makes sense.
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#40
rickOshay Wrote:That’s good news if they act more like the LRX.

But my testing showed the LRX opening up in the 1800-1900 range. Well below the TTSX, but nowhere near 1500.

Guess it means I’d better get some and melt some gels.

Looking forward to your findings.
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