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Blood trails
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Anyone other than me having trouble finding blood trails with the Grendel? I have shot many animals and many of them leave little to no blood trail. I use 123 SST and 129 ABLR. I lost my 3rd hog this weekend due to lack of blood trail. (I could not get a clear head shot so I aimed for the shoulder thinking it would anchor her but it didn?t) I?ve had the same issue with deer as well. Might just have to start that 6.5 Creedmoor build I?ve had an itch for Sad
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Redomen Wrote:Anyone other than me having trouble finding blood trails with the Grendel? I have shot many animals and many of them leave little to no blood trail. I use 123 SST and 129 ABLR. I lost my 3rd hog this weekend due to lack of blood trail. (I could not get a clear head shot so I aimed for the shoulder thinking it would anchor her but it didn?t) I?ve had the same issue with deer as well. Might just have to start that 6.5 Creedmoor build I?ve had an itch for Sad

Your shooting them to high if your not getting a blood trail. Blood on the ground happens best if your entrance and exit is in the lower section of the vitals.

The very bottom of the heart with a clean pass through is your best bet for a blood trail with any rifle round.

Also pigs have very dense, coarse hair and typically can go a good distance before they start to leave any blood sign on the ground.

If you shot the shoulder and she didn't drop you hit the wrong spot for a cns kill. Adjust your point of aim.
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#3
You mean like these Grendel shots...

[video=youtube;5ybf8zkS1qA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ybf8zkS1qA[/video]

LOL, I had trouble getting good blood trails with my .45/70 and .308. As noted, it depends on where you hit them. Every so often, I get a good gusher, but otherwise, they don't tend to be great, but where I shoot them, usually, often isn't highly vascularized or I shoot too high up and the body has to fill with blood before it gets high enough to leak out of the holes I put in the hog.

Also adding to what A5Blaster said, hogs have the near magical quality of sealing up wounds. If you shoot boars through the shield, or a fat boar or fat sow, the shield and/or the fat can often pinch closed the wound where you get minimal leakage. This works much like self sealing fuel tanks or military aircraft. You will tend to NOT get a blood trail if you don't have an exit wound. Entry wounds just seem to bleed a whole lot less.
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#4
Classic, simply classic DNS.......



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#5
Timely subject. I shot a doe last Monday that ran and we didn't find. Frustrating to say the least. I put the crosshairs right in the middle of the chest and let one fly. I know I hit her by the way she ran (running on three legs) but found zero blood. I would have to agree with the previous posts, I hit her to high. Learn as you go.
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#6
Thanks for the reply all. I normally head shoot hogs if I can. I will adjust my aim on the next body shot.
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CJW Wrote:Classic, simply classic DNS.......



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Please excuse my ignorance, DNS?
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#8
Are you questioning the video or the abbreviation of my screen name?
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#9
Double Naught Spy Wrote:Are you questioning the video or the abbreviation of my screen name?

Incorrect punctuation—causing confusion since 3400 BC.

$5 says he is trying to ask you what DNS means.
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#10
DNS=Double Naught Spy
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#11
I’ve watched this video ten times, absolutely two of the best death dances ever filmed.

It is amazing how tough these animals are......
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#12
Those "gushers" are amazing.Good shooting and footage.
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#13
Thanks. Those are the kind of blood trails I am good at followingCool...and those are the exceptions, of course.

What kills me aside from no blood trail are when you get blood trails that just peter out, out in the open, and there is no animals anywhere to be seen...sort of like Scotty beamed it up at the location of the last spot of blood. Frustrating.
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Double Naught Spy Wrote:Thanks. Those are the kind of blood trails I am good at followingCool...and those are the exceptions, of course.

What kills me aside from no blood trail are when you get blood trails that just peter out, out in the open, and there is no animals anywhere to be seen...sort of like Scotty beamed it up at the location of the last spot of blood. Frustrating.

It's got to be one of the worst things when hunting. I HATE it when they run away.
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#15
Daughter's doe (her first deer) was hit center of the front of the chest while facing us; no exit. Doe dropped within 40 yards, but I made Abbie blood trail from hit site to downed deer. With only an entrance hole to leak from, the trail was still easy enough for her to casually walk along and point out the blood drops (something I can't do because I am red/green colorblind). 129 ABLR.
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#16
Grendels lack of pass thru shots with a blood trail is why I recently ordered an AR10. If they don't drop in their tracks you can usually forget following a blood trail and I hate not recovering an animal. Read thru this forum and you will see that is not unusual. I know several here blow elephants and dinosaurs in half with their Grendels but that has not been this hunters experience.
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#17
My buddy that invited us axis hunting, suggested we change our aim point from behind the shoulder to the top of the shoulder. He and others almost lost animals due to no blood trail. And I might add, they were all using 7 mag or larger.

If you want to anchor more animals change your point of aim. If you want a blood trail I can’t help you .
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#18
tomc Wrote:Grendels lack of pass thru shots with a blood trail is why I recently ordered an AR10. If they don't drop in their tracks you can usually forget following a blood trail and I hate not recovering an animal. Read thru this forum and you will see that is not unusual. I know several here blow elephants and dinosaurs in half with their Grendels but that has not been this hunters experience.

Lmao. I have shot southern whitetail deer with 308, 300 wm, 338 federal, 7mm mag, 270 Winchester and 243 and had more no blood trail vital hits then blood trails.

It ain't the speed are the dia of the bullet. It's shot placement that gives blood trails.

Low in the vitals and at a downward angle is best for a blood trail with a bullet in the vitals.
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#19
I have seen near identical performances from sst in 6.5 and .30-06. One hole, no blood. But good placement so quick death and no tracking. Would be worried on a little less desirable placement. Two holes on a marginal shot can be tracked later. Trying ablr and lead free next.
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#20
Finally got a doe down with 20? Satern cut rifled Grendel and with a 100% front on shot, and without a completely stable platform, pulled the shot about 2? right at 100 or so yds. Went high point of front shoulder down flank and through rear ham and not recovered. 27.2 AR Comp under 123gr Sierra BTHP, right at 2465fps. 30yds and done. Full penetration end to end with pretty decisive result. Perfect no, effective yes.
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