Posts: 8,507
Threads: 241
Joined: Sep 2014
10-14-2018, 05:48 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-16-2018, 08:03 PM by LRRPF52.)
NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com
Posts: 4,033
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2011
It gives cause to wonder what the effect might have been on military small arms development if only the Russkis had made the M43 cartridge a 6.5x39mm.
![[Image: 2ea1b8f6af2ea24ccc0b675520680b8accf86496...dd1d_large]](https://cdn1.lockerdomecdn.com/uploads/2ea1b8f6af2ea24ccc0b675520680b8accf864966f6f393d5cc7ce255234dd1d_large)
__________________________________ 6.5 Grendel ______________ 6.5 PPC __________________ 6.5x39 ________________________________
Posts: 1,936
Threads: 48
Joined: Dec 2016
Or if the Serbs had fully adopted the Grendel.
The Grendel in an SBR is starting to look like the thing to beat.
Sticks
Catchy sig line here.
Posts: 103
Threads: 0
Joined: Sep 2018
10-14-2018, 01:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-15-2018, 03:25 AM by Glockpride.)
Sticks Wrote:Or if the Serbs had fully adopted the Grendel.
The Grendel in an SBR is starting to look like the thing to beat.
Yep, but let’s say the word “AR pistol” in place of SBR for us lowly citizens. They do give up some distance, but man are they way more handy when working around the interior of vehicles and doorways, etc. Also, easier to conceal, carry and store. Unless you’re pushing 500 yards plus, I don’t see much distinct difference between a 12” barrel and an 18” barrel in 6.5g. And we can travel across state lines without the BATFE’s blessings.
Posts: 1,936
Threads: 48
Joined: Dec 2016
You will feel that 150 fps drop from an 18" if you are used to working the longer ranges. (500+).
I keep thinking about it, but then someone else will have to get adopted. Already putting up Sandy and Bart. Might have to change over my 16 middy 5.56. and get another lower.
Sticks
Catchy sig line here.
Posts: 682
Threads: 56
Joined: Dec 2016
10-15-2018, 12:48 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-16-2018, 08:04 PM by LRRPF52.)
Good numbers.... thanks for sharing.
I got my 12" PSA upper back from getting the chamber polished, hopefully will take it out again tomorrow at 300-400 yards.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. ― George Orwell
Posts: 8,507
Threads: 241
Joined: Sep 2014
NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com
Posts: 4,033
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2011
:confused: Looks like the same pic as in the OP.
Posts: 8,507
Threads: 241
Joined: Sep 2014
I added more distance for both. Notice how the advantage increases until the SBR Grendel has about the same speed and energy at 900yds as the AKM has at 500yds.
NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com
Posts: 45
Threads: 6
Joined: May 2018
Awesome! Does anyone have a similar comparison for an 18" or 20" Grendel? And also numbers for the .223 or 5.56 in whatever grain bullet? (or links)
Posts: 8,507
Threads: 241
Joined: Sep 2014
I'm planning on doing a full-length 5.56 M16A2 comparison, but all of my 5.56 AR15s are shorter than 20".
I also need to do a graphic showing a 3D metric of 6.5 Grendel next to .308 Winchester, same barrel lengths, with ballistic trajectories and wind deflection.
NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com
Posts: 74
Threads: 6
Joined: Mar 2018
Nice infographic.
I'll be taking my 12.5" Grendel to 720yds in January just to mess with a buddy who doesn't understand ballistic trajectory math and thinks it isn't possible.
|