Oregon ballot measure to ban "Assault" Weapons

[BjornF16]

Bjorn / Guys:

Don't have to tell me this. I have been around these guys since the late 60's.

That's why its stupid to even try to talk with them about these things. So I don't.

Talk with those who you know aren't leftists. Most don't own guns but I bet almost all vote.

LR55

I feel your pain

I've run into a few myself. They aren't interested in listening or learning. They've made up their minds and won't budge. I had a surprising conversation with another F-16 pilot who is a progressive. At the end of the "conversation", I respectfully suggested if he couldn't honor his oath to "protect and defend the Constitution", then he should resign his commission :p...he didn't care for that suggestion.

I do talk with "moderates" who don't know much about firearms but who have initially bought into the propaganda. I typically offer to take them shooting and introduce them to hands-on facts. I've even converted some Brits to realizing that AR-15s aren't evil...

[biodsl]

Update. From the Oregon Firearms Federation.

We will soon have a determination from the Secretary of State on the validity of the signatures turned in for gun confiscation ballot Measure 43. If enough signatures are approved, the measure is sent to the Attorney General to create a proposed "ballot title."

Attorney General Rosenblum is a militant anti-gunner so you can bet the proposed title will paint this hate driven ballot measure in the best possible light. After she creates the title, the public will have a ten day opportunity to comment on the language of the title.

After that, the Attorney General reviews the public's comments and issues a "certified" ballot title. At that point anyone who submitted comments has standing to appeal the title to the Oregon Supreme Court.

We will, of course, keep you informed of the progress of this measure.

[biodsl]

Update from the Oregon Firearms Federation:

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Ballot Measure 43, the "Inter-Hate" petition to imprison Oregonians for exercising their rights, was sent to the Attorney General today for a draft ballot title. After being delayed because they were short on signatures, the petitioners gathered more and collected enough to move to the next step.

After receiving the text of the initiative, the Attorney General prepares a draft ballot title and files it with the Elections Division. A ballot title includes:

 a caption that does not exceed 15 words describing the subject of the petition;
 a statement that does not exceed 25 words describing the result if the petition is passed;
 a statement that does not exceed 25 words describing the result if the petition is rejected; and
 a summary that does not exceed 125 words describing the major effect of the petition.

As you can imagine, it will be virtually impossible for an accurate ballot title and summary to be created given how extreme this measure is.

After the Attorney General creates the title, summaries, and statement registered voters in Oregon will be given an opportunity to comment on the language of the ballot title. There will no doubt be plenty to complain about. The Attorney General has until April 24th to create the title.

When she does, we'll post detailed information on how you can submit your comments. Any registered voter who comments will have standing to appeal the ballot title language in court. You will have until May 8 to submit your comments.

Please keep an eye on these alerts for updates.

This coming Saturday there will be pro Second Amendment rights rallies in several locations in Oregon. Please try to attend the one closest to you.

The rallies already announced for that date are from 11am to 1 pm at the following locations:
Redmond City Hall, Redmond
Sandy City Hall, Sandy
State Capitol, Salem
Municipal Court 411 W 8th St , Medford
405 East 8th Ave, Eugene[/SIZE]

[41bear]

Not necessarily. Guns are used because of their availability and ease of use. The same is not true of bombs.

You might want to rethink that ....

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1...-massacre-

[JASmith]

Anyone thinking that “bombs” — things that go bang and fling injurious debris around — are difficult to find components for and to create is woefully naive.

The hard part is making one operate efficiently for military applications.

One does not need efficiency to kill.