Magazine problem

[SpairParts]

I bought 2 ASC 10rd mags and i believe they are both a POS!
I have tried polishing the lip all the war around the top but both are still scratching the heck out of the shells. Can anything be done to fix them?
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[Sticks]

Is it the magazine or the feed ramps in the barrel extension?

[blackholegun]

My ASC mags did the same thing.

[SpairParts]

Did you fix them and how?

[Crusty]

I recently bought a C Products 10 rd (despite all the problems users reported) and I've found that it functions the best out of my collection which also includes ASC and Elander mags. I did take the follower out and lightly sanded each side so that it slides smoothly. My ASCs function after some lip tweaking but they scratch up my cases. The Elander 28s function well but I don't have any real use for mags that big and mostly they're just in the way.

[Harpoon1]

I bought 2 ASC 10rd mags and i believe they are both a POS!
I have tried polishing the lip all the war around the top but both are still scratching the heck out of the shells. Can anything be done to fix them?
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The front lip on the ASC mag is higher than on the C-product or E-lander mags. The result is the edge of the case neck "stubs it's toe" trying to clear the ASC mag. Or, is at least part of the problem. I take a little mill bastard file to mine and shorten it up some, to better match the other mags.


C-Products, ASC, E-Lander in order in the attached picture.

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[Dcommoncents]

The front lip on the ASC mag is higher than on the C-product or E-lander mags. The result is the edge of the case neck "stubs it's toe" trying to clear the ASC mag. Or, is at least part of the problem. I take a little mill bastard file to mine and shorten it up some, to better match the other mags

I tried this on the one POS ASC mag I am unfortunate enough to own and it still won't feed properly. The feed lips look to be very close to the lips on my Elander that works perfectly, but since there's really nothing to lose I might try bending them some since the nose of the rounds seem to point down a little more in the ASC mag.

I hope you have better luck with your mags SpairParts, otherwise they'll end up matching your forum name.

[Harpoon1]

I tried this on the one POS ASC mag I am unfortunate enough to own and it still won't feed properly. The feed lips look to be very close to the lips on my Elander that works perfectly, but since there's really nothing to lose I might try bending them some since the nose of the rounds seem to point down a little more in the ASC mag.

I hope you have better luck with your mags SpairParts, otherwise they'll end up matching your forum name.

Bummer! The ones I've modified run fine, at least so far................

[VASCAR2]

All my new 6.5 Grendel mags have scratched brass. As the mags are used the scratches seem to get less noticeable. If my mags feed I don’t mind the scratched brass. I tumble my brass in walnut mdeia and the scratched brass has never caused me any issues with my reloads.

I load my new mags and leave them loaded. I bought several E-Lander mags just before Christmas. I loaded them on receipt and have unloaded then reloaded them a few times. They are just now starting to wear in and are getting easier to load and unload. Fortunately the new mags I’ve used in my 16” & 18” Faxon builds have been gtg, no malfunctions.

[sneaky one]

L52 explained how to polish the bbl. ext. He called it a meltdown. I did it on last 5 builds, Plus sanded and polished under the magazine lips - then run a Q tip over all to verify a snag free item.

Brass comes out scratch free.

[sschefer]

I saw on a couple of other forums where folks were using 6.8 mags for 6.5 Grendel because of the mag problems. I sent Alexander Arms an email asking about it but they're all at SHOT until next Monday. I just ordered a bunch of ELander mags from AA because after loading mine up and letting them sit for a week, they seem to run fine. I did have a problem the first time I used them but that was before I let them sit.

[bj139]

I bought two 25 round 6.8 mags when Midway had them on sale for about $10 and change.
Reviews on Midway reported they worked fine with 6.5 Grendel.
I fed 20 Grendel rounds through them through and they fed and ejected 100% just working them through the action.
Three weeks later they went on sale for $8 and change so I bought five more. It's an easy way to store a 20 round box of ammo.
I used one at the range today and it functioned 100% for 20 rounds.
The brass was steel cased Wolf but I did not see any scratches.

[Kswhitetails]

I am not sold on any ASC or affiliate mags. My several from ASC, STONER, and ARI(?) are all horrible at scratching the brass. Two of them scratch badly enough at the case mouth to make me worry about weakening the brass under pressure. I don't use any of them except for my steel cased ammunition.

I am not impressed with the finish of any of the ASC products magazines for Grendel. My 5.56 are all great. ( I am assuming that these are ASCs, I'll do some more research.)

My experience with E-landers (made in Israel?) is that they function great, but vary on COAL due to poor QC in the spot welding dept. Be sure to inspect your welds, and have at it. None of mine scratch the brass. I prefer the 17s for length vs capacity, and being able to buy 10 of the same thing that fulfills all intended purposes. The 17s allow me to use my 7-13 Harris bipod with a minimalist bag in the back and still clear the mag when prone.

[Double Naught Spy]

The front lip on the ASC mag is higher than on the C-product or E-lander mags. The result is the edge of the case neck "stubs it's toe" trying to clear the ASC mag. Or, is at least part of the problem. I take a little mill bastard file to mine and shorten it up some, to better match the other mags.


C-Products, ASC, E-Lander in order in the attached picture.

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[Les]

That Sir is almost identical or looks real familiar to the problem I had with the brand new Elander 17 rd. mag from Alexander, also chopped off the polymer tips in the process. Guess I need to get out a small file.

[Drillboss]

That Sir is almost identical or looks real familiar to the problem I had with the brand new Elander 17 rd. mag from Alexander, also chopped off the polymer tips in the process. Guess I need to get out a small file.

Dremel tool works nicely. I was gonna mention this to you.

[Crusty]

I studied the differences between an ASC mag (which works but gouges my brass badly) and a C Products mag (which works the best of all my mags) and I noticed that the lips on the C Products mag are tapered slightly opening towards the bullet end and the ASC mag lips are roughly parallel to each other. I used a file and tapered the lips on an ASC mag to roughly match the C Products mag and now it feeds much better and doesn't gouge the brass. The slant is slight: from zero at the back end to 1/32" less at the front end, and then smooth all sharp edges. I also cleaned the front side guide lips up too.

[Jmccracken]

every asc mag ive owned, ive had to file the front lip down. It was almost flush with the top when I got it, they wouldnt feed. Filed the front lip of the mag and never had a problem after.

I like my E-lander mags, but i get the asc, theyre cheaper and once the 5 min. of filing is done, theyre great.

[mdewitt71]

Bought a 3 pack of ASC mags when I built my rifle and I can say, I will never buy any more......

I am getting huge scratches in the brass.... from all 3 mags.
My E-Landers are fine and have no issues but, of course I see the E-Landers have a nice powder coat painted finish and these ASCs do not.

I tried filing down the edges and still scraping the brass pretty good.
I used magic marker to find where and it is not the front lip but both side curved feeding lips; all 3 mags.
You can see right in the video posted above his green mag is doing the same thing as it scratches right infront of his thumb from the top curve. Mine are deep, you can feel em when you run your finger across the rounds.
I will throw these mags is a ammo can for SHTF and stick with E-Landers from now on. :mad:

[dammitman]

I have NO elanders that will fall when empty. they stick going in and wont fall out. I have many more than one ar15 to test with and its not the firearms. elanders suck