I finally found the trigger I prefer, so now it's on to other items.
My Grendel and other more precision rifles have PRS stocks. They work well and while they are heavy it doesn't bother me. This group of rifles is set up for bench or prone shooting for the most part. They also run standard rifle length buffers and springs.
In messing with my Creedmoor looking for more tuning in addition to the gas block, I thought about buffers. As a result I have a JP silent capture spring for it. If it quiets down as expected, then I am thinking one will go on my Grendel as well.
For even a little more tailoring, I also picked up an XLR Tactical AR stock. Looks good and has a lot of adjustability (even more than the PRS). From the specs, the XLR is a few ounces lighter. I currently have the Gen 2 PRS stocks, but this is even the case with the Gen 3.
Once I try it out on the Creedmoor, I'll more than likely put it on my Grendel as well (I have the carbine buffers for the platform) to see if it is another item that works better for me than the PRS.
Should have some info to post sometime this weekend.
Anyway, here's the new stock
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Was just thinking of you today. Finally got around to installing the MBT on my trunk-gun build. I agree with you. Less than impressed. The Ruger 452 Elite (got one for like, $90 shipped) is a smoother trigger. Oh, well. The Larue will do fine for this build.
Definitely grabbing a second Triggertech for my 2nd Grendel build. Probably the black PVD straight trigger.
01-06-2018, 12:47 AM (This post was last modified: 01-06-2018, 12:49 AM by wilecoyote.)
js8588 Wrote:Was just thinking of you today. Finally got around to installing the MBT on my trunk-gun build. I agree with you. Less than impressed. The Ruger 452 Elite (got one for like, $90 shipped) is a smoother trigger. Oh, well. The Larue will do fine for this build.
Definitely grabbing a second Triggertech for my 2nd Grendel build. Probably the black PVD straight trigger.
Hey,
I've been busy with work and getting parts together for my two builds I have going. The MBT isn't bad, just not on par with others. Actually saw a comment stating it was as good or better than most that cost two to three times the price. I agree it may be better than some, but not most. My reviews on LaRue's website saying it was just OK and a good $100 trigger were censored. The first never saw the light of day. The second was shown online for about two hours and was promptly removed. Guess the "three out of five dillo" rating and mentioning a long pull and gritty reset was not what LaRue wanted to be stated... only that the MBT is greater than sliced bread is allowed. Hahaha...
I'd use another in my latest carbine, but that's a really short distance build. The other longer range I'm going with another Triggertech. I may go with the adjustable this time though.
Post some info on your new project, sounds interesting.
Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones which have a lining of Iridium and Strontium 90)
I've been busy with work and getting parts together for my two builds I have going. The MBT isn't bad, just not on par with others. Actually saw a comment stating it was as good or better than most that cost two to three times the price. I agree it may be better than some, but not most. My reviews on LaRue's website saying it was just OK and a good $100 trigger were censored. The first never saw the light of day. The second was shown online for about two hours and was promptly removed. Guess the "three out of five dillo" rating and mentioning a long pull and gritty reset was not what LaRue wanted to be stated... only that the MBT is greater than sliced bread is allowed. Hahaha...
I'd use another in my latest carbine, but that's a really short distance build. The other longer range I'm going with another Triggertech. I may go with the adjustable this time though.
Post some info on your new project, sounds interesting.
You mean you have a life outside of posting on gun forums? Perish the thought!
I would say the LaRue is as good as (maybe not quite as smooth, but it breaks cleaner) the Geissele SD-E...which for me, is to say "meh". I'd give it a 4/5 for value. It will do what I need it to do with an irons-only 556 chambered CHF 1/7 twist barrel (18 inch S2W Daniel Defense mid-gas).
My 2nd Grendel project (and I'm still working on the 1st...my how these things multiply) is pretty far from the top of my priorities list.
So far I have:
Seekins Precision SP223 ambi lower
Hexmag Overmolded Grip
15 inch (really a 16.5 inch because of the slant) Diamondhead VRS-T Handguard
White Oak Armament rifle buffer tube
BAD ASS lightweight ambi safety (really just to aesthetically match the lower)
LAR-Grizzly NIB side charging bolt carrier
Might use the Truss trigger on this one (again, aesthetics) and use the black PVD Triggertech straight trigger over on my RECCE. Buy parts for one build, they end up on another. Big boy legos.
As for the rest I have sort of sketched out mentally
Eisenach Arms side charging upper
Rainier Arms Avalanche Ambi charging handle
JP SCS buffer (maybe)
Cobalt Kinetics Billet fixed stock
Probably an AFAB flash comp
Still up in the air on barrel choice. Leaning towards the Proof Research stainless (non CF) barrel but could conceivably end up using a Faxon fluted (not overly impressed with accuracy reports on them so far), or if LaRue decides to sell us Grendel barrels, maybe one of them (he knows how to make barrels that shoot, no doubt).
No man no worries... sounds like a good project. You should be happy with the Seekins lower. My Grendel is that lower with the IRMT-V3 upper. Been really nice and are my keepers. I have the Raptor charging handle. I'll be interested to see how you like the avalanche.
I went big bore and got a 458 SOCOM build going. Then I stupidly started another large frame build because I liked the looks of performance of the 6mm Creedmoor. Down to the barrel for the 458 and an Aimpoint pro for. Still need a rail, barrel and optic for the 6mm. Not sure on the barrel, the rail probably SLR again. Optic, I'll probably move the Steiner on my 6.5 Creedmoor to it and go with more power on the 6.5.
The life outside shooting, that's not much. Mostly work. Got stuck having to get the front brakes done on one of my cars... that cost me, but I want all the service records on file with the dealer so...
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Oh, good. I'm not the only nutjob that gets into cartridges because I like the way they look (coupled with performance, of course). The 6mm Creedmoor is such a pretty little, well balanced looking round with specs to match.
I'm toying between 6.5 Creed, the 6mm, or, and this is really the performance envelope my hunting system is missing, the 6.5 PRC.
wilecoyote Wrote:...My Grendel and other more precision rifles have PRS stocks. They work well and while they are heavy it doesn't bother me. This group of rifles is set up for bench or prone shooting for the most part. They also run standard rifle length buffers and springs.
For even a little more tailoring, I also picked up an XLR Tactical AR stock. Looks good and has a lot of adjustability (even more than the PRS). From the specs, the XLR is a few ounces lighter. I currently have the Gen 2 PRS stocks, but this is even the case with the Gen 3.
Once I try it out on the Creedmoor, I'll more than likely put it on my Grendel as well (I have the carbine buffers for the platform) to see if it is another item that works better for me than the PRS.
Should have some info to post sometime this weekend.
Anyway, here's the new stock
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That almost looks like a Odin Works Zulu stock with a cheek riser. If only Odin had done the cheek thing too, at least as an option.
The 6mm just seems pretty interesting. I have one AR10 (DPMS) pattern. That's the 6.5 Creedmoor amd I really like that cartridge. Another in 6mm seemed to fit. Only problem is they mildly cost. The optics of course cost, so that alone is another couple grand out the door. Oh well, at least I'll have it in my collection and enjoy it. Would have already had it, but those damn brakes tapped me for close to $1500.
Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones which have a lining of Iridium and Strontium 90)
Here's the before and after of the new stock on my Creedmoor. Initial just mounting, the stock feels good. I'll have to get a range trip in, but so far so good. I'm really kind of liking the XLR.
Solid and easy to repeat position for clear sight picture. The monopod shown with the PRS is no longer, I prefer a bag. The sunshade is also removed with the XLR.
Before (with the PRS)
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After (with XLR)
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Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones which have a lining of Iridium and Strontium 90)
Just got back from the range. Still have some tinkering to do with the gas on that rifle. No big deal...
The stock is awesome. I really like the setup. Could use a little more tweaking, but nothing that would detract from my opinion. That's all on me. The stock is solid and comfortable. Placement was easy and repeatable. There isn't much recoil on that Creedmoor to begin with, but pad cancels the little that remained right out.
The JP Silent Capture Spring was great to. Silent and smooth.
Would I buy another of either? Yes, in fact I'm planning on it.
Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones which have a lining of Iridium and Strontium 90)
I liked the JP Captured Spring too but being retired on a budget the cost was just too much for me. I learned about the Armaspec Stealth Captured Spring at less than half price of the JP and bought one, and after around 500 rds on it I like it a lot. I don't even notice the recoil, there's zero noise, my muzzle stays near the target after a shot and it eliminates carrier drag during cycling. It was one of the items which helped to solve my extraction/ejections problems along with an adjustable gas block. I also like not having to remove the buffer stop detent to install it. It took me just a few minutes to learn to pull the handle all the way back when manually cycling the action.
Crusty Wrote:I liked the JP Captured Spring too but being retired on a budget the cost was just too much for me. I learned about the Armaspec Stealth Captured Spring at less than half price of the JP and bought one, and after around 500 rds on it I like it a lot. I don't even notice the recoil, there's zero noise, my muzzle stays near the target after a shot and it eliminates carrier drag during cycling. It was one of the items which helped to solve my extraction/ejections problems along with an adjustable gas block. I also like not having to remove the buffer stop detent to install it. It took me just a few minutes to learn to pull the handle all the way back when manually cycling the action.
Very true on all accounts.
Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones which have a lining of Iridium and Strontium 90)
Fitted the Larue MBT to an upper and gave it a couple dry-fires. Vastly prefer it to my Geissele at far less than half the price. Why it makes so much of a difference with an upper, I'd love to know. I see why people love them.
I still prefer the Triggertech, but if you're on a budget, I really don't know that you can do better than the Larue.
I have an MBT to throw in my 458 and will probably use one in my carbine. They are not bad for the price. I tried the MBT in my Grendel and my Creedmoor, wasn't a fit for me in either. I'm not going to even bother trying in my 6mm build. I'll stick with a Triggertech in it unless I come across an AR Gold first. The MBT fits a spot for me, just not in my precision rigs. I wouldn't toss an AR Gold or Triggertech in my carbine or 458 since for me something else fits their role better.
Geissele aren't bad either. I preferred the SSA-E to the SD-E. I haven't tried a HSNM but would like to. That's why they made my second favorite ranking, until I tried the Triggertech and the list shifted.
Leveling prices across the board buy Geissele makes me wonder. Nothing is free, so you have an SSA and an SSA-E... a bit lighter pull? Spring? Polishing? One is an item, the other work but that means more went into one than the other. If there wasn't and that there wasn't then most (including myself) over paid for the "E" models when the SSA or SD (if there is one, I know there isn't) are the same triggers. Those that paid for the SSA before the hike should be happy, they got a deal. But if they are the same trigger, could the price have been brought down to what the SSA was? I know I'll catch hell for those comments. They aren't a bitch or complaint, just a bit of wonder.
I have my other XLR stock arriving today. The Grendel will end up with it. I'll use a standard carbine spring with it till I get a silent captured spring for it when I do my bigger parts order. The PRS I had for the new AR10 sold, now to sell off the AR15 or it ends up in the parts box. By the time I'm done I'll probably be able to put together a pretty nice build, hell maybe two hahaha...
Just sitting and waiting on my yearly bonus. So the next bit of research will be on another scope. Unfortunately, with something like that I can't buy 5, try them and find the one I like best. I know I like the two I already have so maybe I'll just look at the higher power. Then I need an optic for that 458. Thinking Aimpoint, don't know if i want to throw an ACOG on it. Might try the one I have on my carbine and see how I like it on the 458....
Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones which have a lining of Iridium and Strontium 90)
