Has anyone seen a MVP Mosberg rifle? I havn't .. but it apears to be micro length bolt action .223 rifle that takes AR magazines.And its cheap! It's a heavy long barrel built for varmiting. If we could get Mosberg to chamber it in the 6.5 Grendel , shorten the barrel and change the stock a little it could open up the Grendel nitch considerably. A clip fed, short, handy, accurate, light deer carbine. Or with current barrel and stock a been field gun. It could compete with the 30 30 east of the Mississippi, and be taken seriously out west. Now if we could just convince Mosberg to do the deed....
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Hee hee, great minds! I was thinking that too when I saw one in an ad.
I'm also still wondering when CZ will ever get off their rears and make a Grendel carbine as well. I mean come on...
1.) It won their new cartridge desireability poll...
2.) They already make a 7.62X39 bolt...
3.) They already make 6.5 bores..... I mean geeze louise!!!! Do it already!
why would you buy a bolt gun when u can have an AR15 in a Grendel?
not to mention potentially the same magazine issues...
More velocity from the bolt gun too.
I was flipping through a copy of Rifle Shooter I picked up this morning and say their ad. I think they look pretty cool. If they work as good as they look I will probably get one, but they are not out yet apparently. Why get a bolt gun in 5.56 when I have a rack of ARs? Because sometimes that (bolt gun) is just the mood I happen to be in. :p
Also the traditional hunting style magazine of most bolt guns irritates me to no end. Generally, I ignore them and a real magazine would be fun!
YMMV
A bolt gun has a LOT less moving parts, so a lot less for Murphy to mess with. Bolt guns dont rattle like ARs. Bolt guns scopes are mounted much lower so their balance is better.Production bolt gun triggers are better than production AR triggers. Most bolt guns have wood stocks that go "thump" when knocked accidently against a tree, not KLANG like a AR. A nice accurate bolt gun is less costly than a accurate AR. And did I mention that if the Grendel in bolt form ever gets picked up by a major manufacture like Mosberg or CZ the Grendel cartridge is more likley to survive.
well I still argue that a bolt gun in 6.5 Grendel is a very niche market.
all the arguments for or against a bolt vs auto can be debated until we are blue in the face. regardless both can be made to shoot well. however, I still like a gun going bang everytime I pull the trigger. if I ever buy a bolt gun it is going to be in a caliber that u couldn't chamber in an AR15.
if the Grendel is hinging its future on a bolt gun, then times are much worse than I thought
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I agree that a CZ 527 or Mossberg(never seen one) would make a great little carbine. Great for kids hunting, enough stopping power and range for game up to Muley and Antelope. I passed on a rebarreled CZ 2 years ago, still think that was a mistake.
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speederx7 Wrote:well I still argue that a bolt gun in 6.5 Grendel is a very niche market.
all the arguments for or against a bolt vs auto can be debated until we are blue in the face. regardless both can be made to shoot well. however, I still like a gun going bang everytime I pull the trigger. if I ever buy a bolt gun it is going to be in a caliber that u couldn't chamber in an AR15.
if the Grendel is hinging its future on a bolt gun, then times are much worse than I thought
I tend to agree, but a bolt gun can be made very light for less money than can an AR, and a bolt gun that accepts AR mags would be hugely advantageous. It would not be very hard to make a 5.5 pound bolt gun, but AA tried the same with an AR, and found that it became VERY spendy.
I'd like an AR mag based, bolt action Grendel, but it would only appeal to a small percentage of the population. That's fine, because its going to be finding those niches that allows gun builders to survive, much as AA has with the AR Grendel and the Beowulf.
You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live. - John Galt
5.5 pound bolt gun, using AR mags, chambered in 6.5 Grendel….MMMMMmmm… My Visa is starting to twitch!
I already have a 6# ar15 in 6.5!
Personally I like the 6.5 Grendel because it fits nicely in the AR-15 and if I could get a .264 Win Magnum to fit, I would choose that. The Grendel is a great cartridge because it works in an AR-15. If I needed a bolt gun, there would be better cartridge choices such as .260 REM.
