Suppressor recommendations?

[LRRPF52]

I have the Ultra 7 and 9, probably use the 9 more between my 300WM and AR platforms. My selling point is weight, have some I do not use because of weight. Not much diff between the 9 and 7, can't imagine how light a 5 would be. Just make sure the suppressor works with the length and caliber of your rifle.

The Ultra 5 is so light, you have to feel it to believe it. The 7 is quieter for sure, and TBAC has taken noise suppression to new levels.

One of the main reasons PRS shooters prefer them is lack of POI shift and lack of group walking. If you saw the level of engineering and manufacturing that went into them, you would see why. They aren't just tubes with baffles in them assembled traditionally.

[COTNTOP]

LRR is so right about POI shift. Never gave it much thought but I have a 30PS that shifts 4in, at 100yd. The ultras show no shift that I have seen.

[Capt. Morgan]

For a gas gun, I would strongly recommend the .30 cal cans for 6.5mm bores due to back pressure.

For a bolt gun, the 6.5mm cans are like disconnecting an air tool from the hose with the Ultra 7.

For SBRs, you eliminate the insane muzzle blast and concussion felt around the area, with a much more tamed muzzle noise, nothing Hollywood like the Ultra 7 on a bolt gun.

Ouch. Wish I had known that before I ordered my TBAC Ultra 7 in 6.5. Right now waiting on our friends at ATF to finish the paperwork while my suppressor sits in Suppressor Jail at the FFL.

My thinking was better suppression, and I have to admit rewarding a manufacturer that supported the 6.5 caliber. I'm using an Adams Arms gas piston, only one setting for a suppressor

[TKO]

Just ordered the TBAC Ultra 7 in 30 caliber.

It will see duty on a 16" .223, a SBR build .300AAC and my incoming 16" Precision Firearms Neptune VIII upper.

Thanks for helping me spend $$$$$ guys.

[Klem]

My thoughts on POI shift is that it is a clumsy indicator of quality. The 'free-bore boost' phenomenon almost guarantees a shift in POI. What is an indicator of quality is the size of the group with and without the suppressor attached. If the group is no bigger with the suppressor fitted then that is a pretty good indicator of lack of yaw from either run-out or turbulence introduced by the can. By lack of yaw I mean there is either no yaw introduced by the can or minimal yaw that has corrected itself from spin.

For those with suppressors one way to eliminate POI shift is to always shoot with the can attached. Zero with the can and shoot with it, always attached. POI shift becomes moot.

[TKO]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fE3KkqNJTR8

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QZsZ-x6j27k

[GreyFox Ind]

I love the Crux titanium suppressors. Repeatable and very lightweight. Both of these are Grendel's.

[Klem]

Interesting marketing videos.

A lack of POI shift is visually impressive and used in the videos as a metaphor for the quality of the product. Again however, for me I want to see the average group sizes with and without the suppressor attached; so he needs to be firing at two different aiming marks.

[am4966]

Why get the 5" tbac? It's not hearing safe, depending on where you practice you wouldn't need ear protection of using a different can. If hunting it'd be fine since it's better than no can. You have other options in the 6"-7" range, Crux, DeadAir, Rugged and TBAC just to name a few.

[Klem]

I put it to you that no high power, centre-fire suppressor is hearing safe. Damage can occur from an accumulation of sound as much as from one loud impulse. Workplace safety limits are around 80db for constant noise and anything above this will eventually damage unprotected ears. Multiple shots from any suppressed rifle above 80 will eventually damage unprotected hearing as much as a single shot that is 140 or above. Whether you end up with the 5" or 9" TBAC makes little difference to your ears if you are not wearing ear protection with both.

To my mind, one or two shots when hunting is worth it to leave the muffs behind. But at the range shooting you may as well put them on. You will thank yourself when you get old and cranky, like me!

I see Ray Sanchez, the TBAC employee in that video testing the different length suppressors (recent thread) was wearing black moulded hearing protection underneath that hoodie.

[LRRPF52]

Interesting marketing videos.

A lack of POI shift is visually impressive and used in the videos as a metaphor for the quality of the product. Again however, for me I want to see the average group sizes with and without the suppressor attached; so he needs to be firing at two different aiming marks.

Ray has won Steel Safari several times, taking the can off and putting it back on each day.

The practical aspect of that I see for the PRS guys is transport in the cases. Not many cases will hold the long rifles with the can mounted, and many shooters have to travel back and forth from the range to the hotel each evening/morning.

This kind of performance was really driven by demand from actual long range shooters who want to still be competitive against the top PRS shooters in the Nation, so there is a ton of engineering that goes into them, as well as production techniques.

Another thing that Klem has referred to with runout, that a lot of people overlook, is barrel concentricity. If you have a barrel with an off-centric bore, off-centric threads, or threads that aren't square to the bore, don't expect repeatability, and definitely expect to see some serious POI shift between suppressed and unsuppressed.

These were some of the major problems that TBAC was looking at as competitive shooters, that nobody was really addressing well on the market at the time, especially looking at production approaches to baffle concentricity to the tube. There were and are a lot of ad hoc techniques to attempt concentricity with welded baffles and bores that are a nightmare from a production standpoint.

I don't have a dog in this either way, but I've seen a lot of things behind the scenes with different manufacturers that have formed my perspective, to include European cans.

[LRRPF52]

I put it to you that no high power, centre-fire suppressor is hearing safe. Damage can occur from an accumulation of sound as much as from one loud impulse. Workplace safety limits are around 80db for constant noise and anything above this will eventually damage unprotected ears. Multiple shots from any suppressed rifle above 80 will eventually damage unprotected hearing as much as a single shot that is 140 or above. Whether you end up with the 5" or 9" TBAC makes little difference to your ears if you are not wearing ear protection with both.

To my mind, one or two shots when hunting is worth it to leave the muffs behind. But at the range shooting you may as well put them on. You will thank yourself when you get old and cranky, like me!

I see Ray Sanchez, the TBAC employee in that video testing the different length suppressors (recent thread) was wearing black moulded hearing protection underneath that hoodie.

Yup. I'm in the same boat. A few round on a hunt, not a big deal. Repeated firing at the range, muff or plug up.

[montana]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrcmRYcIt1w
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019...d-silence/
https://www.deltapdesign.com/collections...uppressors