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Anyone get a stamp approved under the new rules yet?
#1
I created a trust earlier this year and bought all of the parts to make my form 1 suppressor before the new rules came into effect but just could not find the time due to work. I actually tried the day before the rule kicked in but the ATF site was down probably due to other procrastinators like myself.

So has anyone gone through this process successfully yet? How bad was it?
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#2
Might want to check out http://www.nfatracker.com
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#3
I've got a Form 4 on a Trust that has been pending since March 21st (old rules). I seriously doubt they'll be anyone to answer this question for several months. Sorry man.
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
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#4
Les Wrote:Might want to check out http://www.nfatracker.com

Thank you very much for that resource.
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cory Wrote:I've got a Form 4 on a Trust that has been pending since March 21st (old rules). I seriously doubt they'll be anyone to answer this question for several months. Sorry man.

Dang almost 7 months, that sucks. Last year I knew quite a few guys who got theirs back in around 4 months or so. I guess volume is up this year.
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#6
It is my understanding that..........volume is through the roof, and if you were dumb like me and waited till the end of June to get your applications in, you will probably be in for a wait of around 12 months. There were posts made on various forums by silencer shop with boxes, and boxes, AND BOXES of forms they were sending to atf there near close. I would get my stuff in now, and then not be in any sort of rush....
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#7
LONG LONG wait..........

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/...lications/
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#8
Goodness, that is crazy. I will hold off for a while then. I dont have time to get my finger prints done anyway.
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#9
I called yesterday, lady said they've been averaging 8 months, my first was received on 5-02 (Processing)
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#10
I just got my stamp Friday that was submitted at the end of February.
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#11
Just got my Form 4 approved last week. I'm waiting for it to get to my dealer.
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
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#12
1911man Wrote:Goodness, that is crazy. I will hold off for a while then. I dont have time to get my finger prints done anyway.

I know you don't have time, but id make time and get your stuff turned in. If not you'll just keep putting weeks on the processing time. I waited and waited under old system, it went from 30 days or so to 4 months. Silencer Shop has machines out there that will do finger printing and other stuff. I'd see if you can get a digital copy of prints from them.
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#13
am4966 Wrote:I know you don't have time, but id make time and get your stuff turned in. If not you'll just keep putting weeks on the processing time. I waited and waited under old system, it went from 30 days or so to 4 months. Silencer Shop has machines out there that will do finger printing and other stuff. I'd see if you can get a digital copy of prints from them.

^^^this^^^

I can't see times getting any shorter anytime soon.
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#14
Nope, the "good" thing is that although the wait sucks whether it was 30 days 3 months or a year... once you have your first one; it makes the wait for the second a little more bearable,
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#15
Use the Silencer Shop machines; if your NFA dealer does not have one or is not getting one; change NFA dealers. I am now on the first pending and NFA tracker is saying expect 9 months to 1 year (old rules). The sooner you get in your paperwork the shorter the wait. Basically with NFA you buy, submit paperwork, and for get about it for 6 months; then check on it. The ATF system is antiquated and despite record NFA sales the ATF has yet to hire more folks or improve the system. I wish they would go back to e-file and does it really take 30 days for an FBI background check?

Short Version: Support the Hearing Protection Act of 2015! If approve it would go like this: (1.) Buy suppressor (2.) Fill out ATF Form 4473 (3.) Get approved and go to the range.
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#16
Flyguy11 Wrote:Use the Silencer Shop machines; if your NFA dealer does not have one or is not getting one; change NFA dealers. I am now on the first pending and NFA tracker is saying expect 9 months to 1 year (old rules). The sooner you get in your paperwork the shorter the wait. Basically with NFA you buy, submit paperwork, and for get about it for 6 months; then check on it. The ATF system is antiquated and despite record NFA sales the ATF has yet to hire more folks or improve the system. I wish they would go back to e-file and does it really take 30 days for an FBI background check?

Short Version: Support the Hearing Protection Act of 2015! If approve it would go like this: (1.) Buy suppressor (2.) Fill out ATF Form 4473 (3.) Get approved and go to the range.

We'll never see the e-file again, now that a paper copy of our fingerprints are required with the submission.
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
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#17
cory Wrote:We'll never see the e-file again, now that a paper copy of our fingerprints are required with the submission.

Yeah we will. Just don't hold your breath on it. But never underestimate the will of government employees to make their jobs easier.
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Josh Wrote:Yeah we will. Just don't hold your breath on it. But never underestimate the will of government employees to make their jobs easier.

How do you e-file a paper copy of your finger prints?
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
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#19
cory Wrote:How do you e-file a paper copy of your finger prints?

You don't need a paper copy. There are several methods of doing them digitally, livescan being a good option. They're requiring fingerprints, not paper copies of fingerprints. They're just not currently set up for digital. EForms is in the process of being replaced, don't be surprised if digital fingerprints are included in the replacement. They could easily do it under the existing system too, upload your livescan receipt and a digital photo and you're good to go.
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#20
its unreal that long a wait, this is something thats a no brainier for this government, its easy money, the participants are the most law abiding human beings on earth, and its registration which is it seems what they want.
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