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Appeals court rules no constitutional right to carry concealed guns
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Consider how long someone would last excercising open carry in San Francisco.
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In around 1990, the two parties of the Oregon Legislature struck a grand deal. The Dems got a 3 day waiting period for handgun purchases and the Republicans got a statewide concealed carry law that allowed issuing of CWL for 'general self-defense' purposes. You did not have to prove a specific threat. It will be interesting if the Left in this state now feel empowered by this 9th Circuit decision to re-institute a specific need requirement for concealed carry permits.

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[SIZE="3"]Update: Ruling on Concealed Weapons Keeps Applications on Hold

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If only this wonderful statute had been established before the San Bernidino shooting, many lives would hve been saved.

Sarcasm, obviously...
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Why does anyone live in Cali ? So negative on all issues. Screw the weather- being nice. Move to middle USA- get some snow in the yard, cooler temps, more effing freedoms!

Better battle ground also, we like to Hunt!

Fienstein sucks somebody off to hold her spot- she's a useless old hag -sent from the outer reaches of hell,- Cali. VOTE HER OUT !!!! Really ??

You're all weenies if you cant park the beatch on the curb by now in Cali. Man up, re group- fight to the death! Good grief...
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i'm sure the gangs and drug cartels are very happy in ca right now---
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Sneaky, I like what your saying. Dave.
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Not to offend our California members...but have you seen this circulating.
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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As a Californian (currently a San Franciscan at that) it gets harder and harder to deal with this place. But I've been to 16 countries, and better than half the states in the US for various reasons, and honestly have not been anywhere I would (other than gun issues and rent/housing) rather live.

There's been an ongoing push here to split the state into two. Although in reality three small states would probably better represent it. The counties north of San Francisco tend to be very liberal in a true sense of the word. People generally just want to be left alone to live as they see fit. (Maybe more along the lines of libertarians) Eastern CA down through the central valley and high desert, tends to be much more conservative, but they and Nor-Cal are politically overshadowed by the population density of the coastal cities from SF to LA which tend to be much more of the rabid "liberal is a bad word" kind of liberals. Where "you can have any kind of liberty you want, as long as the kind we approve of" sort of thinking prevails.
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