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Is it possible to add a small rail to the bottom side of a magpul moe rifle stock?
Wanting to try and add a rail like the prs has so i can mount a monpod for when im shooting from the bench.
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ummm yeah
but it cheaper to just glue a nut inside the bottom of the stock and use a carrage bolt as a monopod for your range use and unscrew it when not being used
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Thanks for that info sir.
What rail do you think would be best used to do this with.
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probably the short moe section of rail call magpul
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Man, I wouldn't do it.
First off, as you said; the only real place you would want to use it is on a bench at a fixed target. In real World or PRS type shooting it is very difficult to adjust on the fly... for example when you have 4-5 targets to engage at varying distances it makes it really tough to change elevations quickly.
Second, a carbine type butt stock has a "rotational" wiggle in it no matter how tight it locks up. Adding length (read "a rail and monopod") to the longest section of the stock at the farthest point from the action will amplify the effect.
I had monopods on my AI Chassis and took them off and I also have a mono pod on my Desert Tech SRS A1 and don't use that either. I would just go with a rear bag and call it a day.
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I will never buy one of those monopods for the reasons stated above. I've used them before, and I always end up folding them up and just using a rear bag of some sort.
Your windage stability is wobbly even from a bench, and they have no benefit in the field.
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I thank you gents for the info about the monopod and rail.
I do have a monopod already from when I had my prs and I like it more then the rear bags that the range I shoot at uses, the bags didnt seem to work to good to me but then again they are really old.
I already ordered the rail but may not install it till I buy me my own personal rear bag and see how that works for me.
Can one of you gents point me to a good rear bag to try.
Useing a harris bipod on the front of the rifle should I also consider useing a bag on it as well instead of the bipod.
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I have bought one set of Caldwell bags but actually prefer the ones I made myself.
I used rough rice as the stuffing because I have a rice farmer buddy, it has some weight to it but not as heavy or dusty as sand.
As for the outermost cover, I sacrificed a camo fleece given to me by a former employer. It had several zipper pockets which were ez. Stitch the sleeves and use ziploc bags inside.
I will text you pics.
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Check the 2 below out. Basically, I look for a rectangular design because that gives me 3 heights to shoot from (flat, short side and long side). Reach under with your support side hand and grab the bag... you can adjust the height easily by squeezing the bag.
Edit... look at the montage LRRP posted and see the top right pic. That is what I mean.
https://tabgear.mycustomevent.com/Shoppi...rce=search
http://wiebad.mybigcommerce.com/loop-bag/
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Thanks for the info on how to use the bags and pics of bags to consider.
Probably going to make my own bags.
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Im making some right now. What I did was take the boss ladys food safer machine and make me a few plastic bags and put some sand in them and then sealed them up, next will be to use some heavy canvas material I have on a roll from my boat build and make a bag out of it with zipper, then place the diffrent sized sand bags into the canvas bags to make some shooting bags of diffrent lengths heights and widths and weights.
Think they might work good myself, I like to make things lol
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the filling kinda needs to move around ignorer to hold the rifle depending on the design of you bags the foodsaver may make the sand to firm but it would certainly keep the sand from becoming a mess
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I hear you on that fact and I had thought bout that, I only heat sealed them instead of vacuming the air out and then sealing them.
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i plan to fill mine with heavy poly styrene molding beads like what beanie babies are filled with when i get home and have a chance to get to the range.... i miss my toys
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LRRPF52 Wrote:I will never buy one of those monopods for the reasons stated above. I've used them before, and I always end up folding them up and just using a rear bag of some sort.
Your windage stability is wobbly even from a bench, and they have no benefit in the field.
What LLRPF52 said.
I have a monopod sitting on my bench that is collecting dust because I thought it might be a good idea. I found it very unstable and a pain to make adjustments. I now use a squeeze bag.
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Hmm, looks like I need to get my cousin to make me some bags for bottum of the stock
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