Ring/Riser Suggestions??

[concepthomes1]

Instead of using a cantilevered one-piece mount for my scope, I am going with a riser and rings setup. Can any one recommend a quality riser manufacturer without breaking the bank? I know there are some affordable ones out there, but Larue, Bobro, etc.... are too proud of their products.

[warped]

The riser and ring combo sucks, guess how I know?

[r3dn3ck]

Burris Signature series rings. They have eccentrics available in 0,5,10,20 MOA. You can dial up to 40MOA just in the rings and correct for slight misalignments in the barrel/receiver connection. The eccentrics are plastic as well and protect the scope finish from getting marred by the rings.

Try to not use a riser mount if you can get away with it and shoot comfortably that way. Otherwise, I use a 30MOA 3/4" riser on one of my AR's and dial 10 minutes out of that with the burris rings. Brownells carries the 30MOA riser. Everyone sells the Burris rings. You'll want the Zee ring from them for picatinny mount.

[Hoot]

All my ARs wear YHM risers and Burris Signature Zee rings. They may not make you look paramilitary, but they work well for me. I like a good cheek weld on an A2 stock and if the scope does not line up vertically with my eye, I can switch to a different height ring. I don't hunch up on the gun, so I've never needed a forward rake from the rings since I use a recoil pad due to heavy calibers.

Hoot

[YutYut]

if you're gonna go rings then yes burris sig zee. but take a look at these.
http://www.dnzproducts.com/index.php?mai...7b5414d02d
you can find them relatively cheap around the web for example

http://www.opticsplanet.net/dednutz-rifl...ice-7.html

http://www.opticsplanet.net/dednutz-rifl...ice-8.html
ive used these in the past and they are awesome quality mounts. Not sure how they stack up to a larue,ADM, or bobro mount as ive never used them but im sure DNZ would hold their own.

[warped]

I guess I should have stated cheap risers suck, they often cause a scope to rotate out of plumb.

I have an AA scout rail which is good. I used Warne Maxima steel rings on it.

If you have not tried Warne Maxima rings, you should they are an excellent ring and really cost effective.

If I needed a better ring I would jump all the way up to Badger rings.

[ss355]

Is weight a concern? Like warped wrote, the Warne steel rings, while heavy, are pretty darned solid. I've used them atop a YHM riser and found that completely satisfactory.

If you want lightweight, you might consider the YHM rings for the AR. They're aluminum so they're lighter than the Warne steel rings. I don't know about the long-term durability though. Still, I plan a pair for my 16" Grendel to lighten the load.

http://yhm.net/index.php?main_page=produ...ucts_id=70

[VASCAR2]

Rock River Arms has a quality riser than won't break the bank.

[Whelenon]

I went with the YHM rises and Warne Rings. So far, so good and the price is right.http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthrea...1-2-pounds.

[concepthomes1]

Whelenon, not sure if I understand your riser/ring setup. Why the shorter ring and stepped up riser on the front?

[Whelenon]

Whelenon, not sure if I understand your riser/ring setup. Why the shorter ring and stepped up riser on the front?

Sorry about the old pics. Those were taken before I adjusted the eye relief, didn't even shoot it yet. I was excited to see it all together and wanted to show off my new toy.
The rear ring has a YHM 1/2" Riser under it. The front ring after adjusting eye relief ended up over the forearm so I used the YHM Extend 1/2" Riser which cantilevers the front ring over the forearm. $38 plus S&H from YHM for the Risers I already had the Warne Rings. This set-up gives me plenty of adjustment to put the scope were I want it.

[r3dn3ck]

only use a riser if you need one. If you do, stick with a 1 piece. For most AR uses getting 20MOA or 30MOA built into the riser is enough to get you down at the bottom of your scope's adjustment range. Adding the Burris Zee rings lets you dial that up/down as needed. I'm skeptical as hell about any riser causing scope rotation. Calling BS on that.

[concepthomes1]

Ok, I guess I've never fully understood "MOA" connotations and all that. I think I understand MOA as it relates to point of impact on the target, but maybe I'm missunderstanding that as well. What is "20MOA" and "30MOA" and how does it relate to mounting my scope on my grendel? I'm running out of time b/c I need this completed to hunt rifle season in MI.

[QuadCam]

Ok, I guess I've never fully understood "MOA" connotations and all that. I think I understand MOA as it relates to point of impact on the target, but maybe I'm missunderstanding that as well. What is "20MOA" and "30MOA" and how does it relate to mounting my scope on my grendel? I'm running out of time b/c I need this completed to hunt rifle season in MI.

the mount has a built in extra amount of elevation (20 or 30 moa) to it. Basically, the mount is cut at an angle. Normally, you'd mount a scope and zero it at 100 yards. In a perfect world, your "zeroed" scope would have it's elevation turret right in the middel of it's adjustment range........giving you the same amount of ability to adjust your aim upward or downward. Since you really need a whole lot of ability to adjust your aim point lower (for bullet rise), the angled scope mount allows you to use more of the turret's adjustment range to compensate for bullet drop at long dstances than if you had a flat mount.

For example, if you have a scope with an 80 moa adjustment range (+/- 40 from the middle). with a 20 moa angled mount, you now would have an adjust ment of -20 moa to +60 moa.....allowing you to adjust the scope for bullet drop at a distance that you normally couldn't adjust to (without holding over the target) with a flat mount.

Sorry for the verbose answer, but I think I explained right.

[Whelenon]

I used the YHM Risers on my Grendel and have no problems shooting out to 300yds. Did not run out of scope adjustment. If I was looking to shoot at longer distances or money was no object then I'ld buy the Larue one piece mt/rings combo. But for mid-range hunting the low cost risers works for me.

[concepthomes1]

This link is for the Warne 30mm rings "MEDIUM HEIGHT". How do I determine if I need low, medium, or high rings?

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/161123/...tte-medium

[Whelenon]

My Warne rings are high, I think the medium rings would've worked with the 1/2" riser but that's what fits me. Your looking to get about 1.5" in height(center of scope) off the top of your reciever.