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Hope this gets traction... Since I don't see them changing the law for cans and hunting in Michigan other wise. Since the dnr say it will aid in poaching.
Thanks for the link
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am4966 Wrote:Hope this gets traction... Since I don't see them changing the law for cans and hunting in Michigan other wise. Since the dnr say it will aid in poaching.
Thanks for the link
With that reasoning, they should ban bows and lariat ropes (I know some fairly western, redneck folks).
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Drillboss Wrote:With that reasoning, they should ban bows and lariat ropes (I know some fairly western, redneck folks).
I know, they really don't think things through. I mean you can make it easier on the shooters ears and lower the sound for others around(dont know how it helps with the noise for people who live nearby) but you still have the report or breaking the sound barrier. No hiding from that...
I filled the form letter out and I'm pretty sure 1 out of the three will support this.
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Drillboss Wrote:With that reasoning, they should ban bows and lariat ropes (I know some fairly western, redneck folks).
I've heard of game being taken with nothing more than a Q-beam and a club. (Rednecks are rednecks, some would rather take a doe illegally than a trophy legally.)
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On your link when you get there to fill it out what the hell is the prefix
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Would rather take a doe they taste better and antlers dont make good soup not pathetic enough I have to validate my existence by putting some thing on the wall to prove I can shoot a deer I hunt for meat not trophy I know that comment is off topic but am so sick of antler fever ruining the hunting experience if you like antlers dont judge someone for taking a doe if that is what they want to legally take.
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wraith1516 Wrote:Would rather take a doe they taste better and antlers dont make good soup not pathetic enough I have to validate my existence by putting some thing on the wall to prove I can shoot a deer I hunt for meat not trophy I know that comment is off topic but am so sick of antler fever ruining the hunting experience if you like antlers dont judge someone for taking a doe if that is what they want to legally take.
You need to re-read my comment. I'm not a trophy hunter. My comment was in regard to people that would rather kill an animal illegally than legally.
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My response from my congressman
November 12, 2015
Dear Mr. Grendel
Thank you for contacting me about H.R. 3799, the Hearing Protection Act. I appreciate hearing from you.
As you know, H.R. 3799 has been introduced by Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ) and would remove sound suppressors from regulation under the National Firearms Act (NFA). H.R. 3799 is currently before the House Committees on Ways and Means and the Judiciary for review.
I consider myself one of the many Americans that use firearms for recreational hunting, collection, and protection – this is a liberty that is to be treasured and protected. Please know I will be mindful of your views should H.R. 3799 reach the House floor for a vote.
Again, thank you for contacting me. Please make sure to sign up for my e-newsletter at: http://walberg.house.gov/ or follow my Facebook page at: http://www.facebook.com/RepWalberg, so I can keep you updated on my activities in Congress.
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I too have been following this legislation and the only show stopper is that it has been moved to be studied at this time. Studies can equal Bill killer. The growing popularity of suppressors/ silencers in the United States may have an effect on HR 3799 gaining more traction. Those who support HR 3799 (folks like me) must continue to contact representatives regularly to push the Bill through. Elections are coming up soon and let your representative know that your vote depends on their support of your liberties. Long live the Republic!
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Just emailed my Representative today asking for support of H.R. 3799. If he decides to not support it I think I might run against him in the next election.
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This is a simple copy and paste from the American Suppressors Association (ASA) to contact your state representatives or got to http://http://americansuppressorassociat...ction-act/
Dear Honorable (Put in Representative Name),
The Hearing Protection Act (H.R. 3799), legislation which addresses the removal of suppressors (also known as silencers) from the National Firearms Act, is of paramount interest to me because I am a law-abiding citizen who values both the safety of my hearing and the hearing of those around me. This issue directly impacts my ability and the ability of countless other law abiding citizens to practice reasonable and responsible safety measures while enjoying our sport - whether that is hunting, target shooting, or any related activity allowed by the laws of this country.
Suppressors have been misrepresented in entertainment and the media for quite some time, which has given many misinformed people a negative perception of them. Ownership of silencers has skyrocketed in the recent past, without any correlation of crimes committed using silencers. In fact, the number of crimes committed using silencers is so low, it is within the margin of numerical error within the general statistics relating to crime. Numbers provided directly from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives support these statements.
I urge you to sincerely evaluate the benign and responsible uses of suppressors in hunting and sporting applications and consider becoming a cosponsor of the Hearing Protection Act.
Thank you for your consideration of my viewpoint on this matter. I believe it is an important issue, and would like to see the Hearing Protection Act pass to ensure that Americans are able to freely practice their sport and protect their hearing.
Respectfully Requested,
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It's starting to look like I may need to run for Congress. I don't think I wold fit in because I have the ability to think for myself and think people should take personal responsibility for themselves.
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Flyguy11 Wrote:It's starting to look like I may need to run for Congress. I don't think I wold fit in because I have the ability to think for myself and think people should take personal responsibility for themselves.
Heretic!
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LRRPF52 Wrote:My tinnitus tells me that there are a lot of people around the Nation who could possibly file class action lawsuits for hearing damage, since in a home or car defense situation, firing indoors will often lead to permanent hearing loss.
Also, our hunting animals should not have to suffer hearing loss, and hearing protection for dogs and horses is very impractical, while tampering with their natural senses that assist in performing their tasks.
There is zero Constitutional justification for even regulating suppressors, as they are not firearms or weapons of any sort. Their best comparison is automobile mufflers, which are mandated by law for the same purposes, noise suppression.
I've been watching this in hopes it will pass. It's funny you bring up hunting animals. I've been stuffing my hunting mules ears with cotton balls to try and save some of his hearing when hunting hogs with him. Luckily he's gotten better about it, lol.
LRRPF52 Wrote:Called my reps in support of this. They are already aware of it and seem favorable to it. The refund of all the $200 tax stamps is something I have advocated for years.
Since when did you have to pay tax for a right?
From what I've read, they're only going to go back to a certain date on refunds. I think it's within a year or two of when/if the bill passes.
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In Hollywood, suppressors kill people and are feed by clips.
The average American perceives suppressors as what hitman and CIA operatives use... thank you Hollywood.
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Public perception is changing with regard to suppressors.
One of the biggest factors, believe it or not, is video games. The generation of kids who have grown up playing all these games have been conditioned to having a laundry list of exotic weaponry available to them.
As they grow into adulthood, many of them get into AR15's and shooting in general, and will see people at the range with suppressors commonly.
They approach those fellow shooters, then ask the natural questions of how, where, what do I do, etc.
Almost every range trip I make to public ranges is guested by shooters with suppressors. It's a losing argument when anyone with half a brain looks at the legislation and asks, "Why do we have these retarded laws in the first place?"
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Refunds will only go back to purchases after October 22nd, 2015. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-cong...-bill/3799
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LRRPF52 Wrote:Public perception is changing with regard to suppressors.
One of the biggest factors, believe it or not, is video games. The generation of kids who have grown up playing all these games have been conditioned to having a laundry list of exotic weaponry available to them.
As they grow into adulthood, many of them get into AR15's and shooting in general, and will see people at the range with suppressors commonly.
They approach those fellow shooters, then ask the natural questions of how, where, what do I do, etc.
Almost every range trip I make to public ranges is guested by shooters with suppressors. It's a losing argument when anyone with half a brain looks at the legislation and asks, "Why do we have these retarded laws in the first place?"
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