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Boston Bombing
#61
Perhaps. But we do know that in the last few decades there have been hundreds of innocent men, women, and children murdered and maimed in mass shootings by loony gun owners.

That only makes sense if you would agree that thousands of people are killed in this country each year by automobile owners.
#62
I was as perplexed as most about the recent murder of Chris Kyle. Now these Boston Marathon photos are offered by Alex Jones mentioning Chris Kyle in his intro. None of this can be taken at face value as Jones offers, but what, in these days of waging war by way of deception, can be taken at face value?

http://www.infowars.com/navy-seals-spott...backpacks/

If these guys aren't part of a "drill" (that has been since denied, despite the testimony of multiple eyewitnesses who have no apparent agenda) and aren't running a race, what are they running? What is with all the gear?
#63
Alex4922 Wrote:That only makes sense if you would agree that thousands of people are killed in this country each year by automobile owners.
Huh? You're trying to equate traffic accidents to mass murders??? Seriously? Rolleyes
#64
Saudi Nationals caught on camera near the blast zone being watched by Feds. Detained & detention reported by CNN's John King, emergency meeting with Obama and Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal held yesterday, suspect quickly deported back to Saudi Arabia, story scrubbing begins.

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http://www.examiner.com/article/boston-b...b_articles

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#65
Nukes Wrote:I was as perplexed as most about the recent murder of Chris Kyle. Now these Boston Marathon photos are offered by Alex Jones mentioning Chris Kyle in his intro. None of this can be taken at face value as Jones offers, but what, in these days of waging war by way of deception, can be taken at face value?

http://www.infowars.com/navy-seals-spott...backpacks/

If these guys aren't part of a "drill" (that has been since denied, despite the testimony of multiple eyewitnesses who have no apparent agenda) and aren't running a race, what are they running? What is with all the gear?

I watched that, while I don't put ANYTHING past this administration or congress for that matter to push their agenda, you're not going to convince me that our SEALs had anything to do with an attack on America. I don't doubt those were SEALs on the street and I don't doubt the administration was going to try and convince us this was the work of one person.

What I don believe actually happened here was that we had credible intelligence that an attack was going to take place. They put a SEAL team on the ground to help sniff out the terrorist. This is what they don't want us to know. They don't want us to know that they allowed an attack to take place without stopping it this time. This almost happened with the underwear bomber, but they, we all, got lucky on that one.

Nukes, man, I appreciate your different points of views, but be careful making accusations againts our nation's heroes without hard proof. The same goes for Israel. I don't appreciate people defining America by the corrupt acts of a few politicians. I bet you don't either, and I'm sure Israel doesn't, as well.
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
#66
Those aren't SEAL Teams guys, seriously. Those are Feds, and some of them have either attended training at Craft International, or wear the hats to remember Chris Kyle. What makes the most sense is that these Saudi nationals were on a terrorist watch list, and were either followed or trailed once it was learned they were at the marathon. There are still patriotic Americans at the lower levels of investigative offices in the FBI, the CTU, the JTTF, etc., many former military.

It seems that at least one of the little Saudis was detained, but an emergency meeting was held yesterday with Obama and the Saudi Foreign Minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, where the suspect's release was negotiated and he returned to the Saudi Kingdom. If that's the case, there are a lot of irate field agents who will need to be gagged and threatened with loss of job, punitive actions, etc.

Also be aware that Bloomberg's organization has been placing trolls on every pro-freedom forum, especially gun forums, to try to bring the forum communities down by making racially-charged statements, links to Alex Jones to defame the forum community, and other classic disinformation tactics that can possibly be used at a later date when free speech internet traffic is more regulated if the "progressives" have their way.
#67
I think everyone should be able to debate their thoughts or beliefs, if it is done respectfully. The moderators have done a good job keeping the discussions civil when tempers flair. LRRPF52 is correct when he stated to be careful that anything said on this forum could be construed to be used against us. Every gun owner is an ambassador to the less informed voters but free speech and thoughts are as important as our other rights.
#68
Additional pictures show the man in blue carrying a weighted shoulder duffle.

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”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
#69
LRRPF52 Wrote:Those aren't SEAL Teams guys, seriously. Those are Feds, and some of them have either attended training at Craft International, or wear the hats to remember Chris Kyle. What makes the most sense is that these Saudi nationals were on a terrorist watch list, and were either followed or trailed once it was learned they were at the marathon. There are still patriotic Americans at the lower levels of investigative offices in the FBI, the CTU, the JTTF, etc., many former military.

It seems that at least one of the little Saudis was detained, but an emergency meeting was held yesterday with Obama and the Saudi Foreign Minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, where the suspect's release was negotiated and he returned to the Saudi Kingdom. If that's the case, there are a lot of irate field agents who will need to be gagged and threatened with loss of job, punitive actions, etc.

Also be aware that Bloomberg's organization has been placing trolls on every pro-freedom forum, especially gun forums, to try to bring the forum communities down by making racially-charged statements, links to Alex Jones to defame the forum community, and other classic disinformation tactics that can possibly be used at a later date when free speech internet traffic is more regulated if the "progressives" have their way.

Makes more sense than my explanation.
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
#70
Good heavens, Cory, I accused no one. I took great pains to say that Alex Jones put out the material and that none of it could be taken at face value. Please re-set your hair trigger. Alex Jones is no more my cup of tea than Fox, CNN, or MSNBC. NONE of them are unimpeachable sources, but he did adduce photos of interest that, like every data point, should be assessed on its own merits or demerits.

That said, do you really think that a "few" politicians are the sole source of our problems? That there aren't lots of politicians, bureaucrats, and enforcers to blame? That the people carry no blame? That financiers and power brokers behind the "few" politicians carry no blame?

I believe is addressing fundamentals to solve problems, but that is not the same as over-simplifying the problem or the solution.
#71
Saudi nationals frequently get away with high crimes in the US, and are speedily returned on one of the royal fleet airliners owned by one of the Saudi princes, after diplomatic immunity is declared and local LE is rudely dealt with by the State Department under color of "national security".

One particularly heinous crime involved some Saudi princes who were hosting a large house party in one of their mansions. They employed recruiters to go out and recruit girls with certain physical characteristics to attend their exclusive, drug-laced party. One particular victim received notice via her cell phone that her father had died, and while grieving, was raped by these animals.

They were detained by local LE, and questioned as to why they committed such a heinous act. The answer: "We had never seen someone so sad before, so we thought it would be interesting to see what sex was like with her. We'll be going now, seeing as you have received confirmation of our diplomatic immunity."

These types of crimes are white-washed or buried to keep relations calm between the US and Saudi Arabia.
#72
Huh? You're trying to equate traffic accidents to mass murders??? Seriously?


No Stanc, what I am saying is that you calling some yo-yo's who manage to use a gun to kill innocents "gun owners" is as silly...no it's as mindless as grouping "car owners" in with those who kill thousands in DUIs. Most of these ghouls need a few pointers in rearrangeing their homicide, then suicide plan into suicide then......

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#73
Alex4922 Wrote:No Stanc, what I am saying is that you calling some yo-yo's who manage to use a gun to kill innocents "gun owners" is as silly...no it's as mindless as grouping "car owners" in with those who kill thousands in DUIs.
With such "intelligent" comments -- and I use the term loosely -- you probably should refrain from calling other people mindless.
#74
I didn't say you were mindless, I said your comment was... A
#75
Grendel-Gene Wrote:It seems they used a pressure cooker packed with ball bearings.... There are gonna have to ban these high capacity pressure cookers now....

God help us!!

'Twas ball-bearings and nails that did the bulk of the damage. Let's outlaw those.... oops, no machines, no buildings -- paradise for some, hell for most of us!!!!
#76
Be careful about speculation...a couple of teenagers, one of which visited a police station to clear his name. Don't want to be mistaken for other virulent anti-semites...

Quote:The New York Post’s cover was widely discredited earlier today after CBS correspondent John Miller said that the two men pictured were not being sought by the FBI. A subreddit devoted to catching the Boston marathon bombers is deleting any posts that use the picture of Barhoun.

The New York Post is now reporting (in an article timestamped 1.43pm EST) that Barhoun and his friend have been cleared by investigators. According to Politico, New York Post editor Col Aitkin sent out an email earlier today saying they “stand by” the story and that it did not identify them as suspects.

source: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/...s-a-twist/
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#77
Such wisdom:

“It has the hallmarks of both domestic and international (attacks), and you can see either side of that,” former FBI Assistant Director Tom Fuentes told CNN.
#78
Here's what I expected, Senator Frank Lautenberg wants gunpowder sales to be subject to background checks. The article says blackpowder but you know smokeless is going to be targeted. Anybody with a pile of poop can make black powder.http://www.examiner.com/article/senator-...n-massacre
#79
More pics and the right questions:
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/more....html#more
#80
Edit: Pulled post, could be incorrect.:eek:
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