I cleaned off what they had on the floor, then told them what I did and asked if any was in the back. Guy brought out more.
Just shot some today, well, a lot of it today from the Howa and my LaRue Stealth.
Great ammo. Best 5rd group with the LaRue was .545" using a Burris 1.5-6x scope with big dot aiming point, not exactly a precision scope.
Also shot it at 200yds, which was extremely difficult to aim at the boxes on my targets with that scope. Still held just over 2 MOA, shooting off rickety bench blocks covered in carbon carpet.
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NugginFutz Wrote:This is what I saw at 6:00 pm today.
That pallet was full this morning, so apparently there are more Grendel shooters in the area than I had previously imagined.
You have a store in your hood with a full pallet of Grendel?
The one closet to me only had 11 boxes, and it was mixed in with a pallet of 308, 6.5 Creed, and 5.56/.223. The other three they had scattered all over. End caps, shelves with the rest of the ammo, two pallet displays...
LRRPF52 Wrote:I cleaned off what they had on the floor, then told them what I did and asked if any was in the back. Guy brought out more.
Just shot some today, well, a lot of it today from the Howa and my LaRue Stealth.
Great ammo. Best 5rd group with the LaRue was .545" using a Burris 1.5-6x scope with big dot aiming point, not exactly a precision scope.
Also shot it at 200yds, which was extremely difficult to aim at the boxes on my targets with that scope. Still held just over 2 MOA, shooting off rickety bench blocks covered in carbon carpet.
I just picked up 2 boxes from SW in Everett, WA - $120 each with tax - there were 4 left on the floor in front of the firearms counter....didn't ask about in back.
They had one package of new Hornady Grendel brass - 50 pieces for $39.99.... So, the sale priced American Gunner is $.20 a round cheaper than empty cases
Happened to be in Wilmington, NC today and went to the Sportsman's Warehouse there to check for this ammo. They had two boxes of 6.5 G, grabbed them both. When I got to checkout and the lady rang them up they were running a promo and I got them for $109.99 each plus tax. I then immediately asked if they had more in the back. They checked but they didn't. I think I did pretty good!
bj139 Wrote:What was the best group from the Howa?
I was shooting more for chrono speeds Saturday with the Howa.
When I tried to move to a different aiming point, I got an error, so I just sent a boat load of bullets into one group, including my hand load ladders.
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A member on another board took the initiative and called Hornady directly to inquire about the BC of the 123 BTHP loaded in the American Gunner Grendel ammo. He says they did him a solid and ran it over their doppler. They came back with a.450 G1 and .225 G7 BC.
Not as good as I'd calculated, but it certainly will help with the drop charts to have accurate information.
If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for?
12-09-2017, 07:53 PM (This post was last modified: 12-09-2017, 07:56 PM by diddlyv.)
Just got the last can (plastic so might not technically be a can) off the floor at the Phoenix sportsman's warehouse for $139 for 200 rounds. Did not ask if they had more in back. Got an additional 5% military discount. It is as though hornady sold the brass at a reasonable price and donated bullet, powder and primer.
LRRPF52
What was the load for the 95 Grain controlled chaos
I only shot 3 rounds of ELD-M at 200yds with the 6x scope, barely able to see the squares. I used the tip of the post on the reticle for a 200yd hold.
Imagine trying to use the tip of the vertical stadia right under the center dot.
I have that 1.5-6x42 as well. I bought it for the typical <300 yds dense woods throw it up and shoot fast we have here. I have the same problem when trying to use it to "target" shoot loads with.
12-11-2017, 03:45 PM (This post was last modified: 12-11-2017, 03:47 PM by LRRPF52.)
diddlyv Wrote:Just got the last can (plastic so might not technically be a can) off the floor at the Phoenix sportsman's warehouse for $139 for 200 rounds. Did not ask if they had more in back. Got an additional 5% military discount. It is as though hornady sold the brass at a reasonable price and donated bullet, powder and primer.
LRRPF52
What was the load for the 95 Grain controlled chaos
95gr Controlled Chaos
2.256" COL
34.3gr CFE223
Hornady Brass
Rem 7 1/2 BR primer
That's the first time I ever shot it at 200yds and it grouped .67 MOA for 5 rounds.
I have a box of 50 that I loaded up for DNS to try on pigs and yotes, but I can't win for love nor money trying to ship ammo, even going all the way over to the regional shipping center.
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Went out yesterday with the GF and her Eldest Daughters rifle (not Xmas yet) to do some shooting with her. This was the second time that she has shot, the first being my 16" middy and RDS at a IDPA target about 50yds away.
First time with a bolt gun, got the rifle sized for her (stock, cheek weld), scope focused, and went through the basics of shooting and running the bolt gun.
I now know that this particular 20" Howa 1500 HB, does not like SST either. Might be that 1.37 MOA is good enough for hunting, but paper and steel needs a bit more accuracy. Verified the grouping with me shooting to eliminate the FNG shooter. I got the same crappy group.
Switched over to American Gunner and she shot this;
.745 MOA on her 20-25 shots in a Bolt gun and Grendel.
She fired 4 more groups, all staying under an inch, then we changed it up (I was done with my load testing) and put some "X" cuts in the cardboard backing and inserted some shotgun shells that were left behind in the slots. Played a make shift game. Shoot until you miss, then the next person gets a go. Kind of like pool. Technically we tied 8 to 8, the last 5 of mine being standing up on some sticks, but they did not fall over - yes she was kicking my butt on shooting them in the cardboard.
These three were hers, the others we kind of nicked or caught the edge.
Anyhow - The American Gunner is pretty accurate ammo, in both my AR, and at least 2 of the three Howa's from the family Horde. Shooting the SRM just got a little cheaper.
Sticks Wrote:Went out yesterday with the GF and her Eldest Daughters rifle (not Xmas yet) to do some shooting with her. This was the second time that she has shot, the first being my 16" middy and RDS at a IDPA target about 50yds away.
First time with a bolt gun, got the rifle sized for her (stock, cheek weld), scope focused, and went through the basics of shooting and running the bolt gun.
I now know that this particular 20" Howa 1500 HB, does not like SST either. Might be that 1.37 MOA is good enough for hunting, but paper and steel needs a bit more accuracy. Verified the grouping with me shooting to eliminate the FNG shooter. I got the same crappy group.
Switched over to American Gunner and she shot this;
.745 MOA on her 20-25 shots in a Bolt gun and Grendel.
She fired 4 more groups, all staying under an inch, then we changed it up (I was done with my load testing) and put some "X" cuts in the cardboard backing and inserted some shotgun shells that were left behind in the slots. Played a make shift game. Shoot until you miss, then the next person gets a go. Kind of like pool. Technically we tied 8 to 8, the last 5 of mine being standing up on some sticks, but they did not fall over - yes she was kicking my butt on shooting them in the cardboard.
These three were hers, the others we kind of nicked or caught the edge.
Anyhow - The American Gunner is pretty accurate ammo, in both my AR, and at least 2 of the three Howa's from the family Horde. Shooting the SRM just got a little cheaper.
Great game to play!
Assuming that was 100 yds now YOU try it at 200 yds...That would be challenging!
12-13-2017, 09:35 PM (This post was last modified: 12-13-2017, 10:01 PM by Randy99CL.)
85_Ranger4x4 Wrote:Could have sworn I saw American Gunner 9mm at Cabela's last weekend... maybe they are expanding the line beyond SW?
Yes, they're in the Natchez catalog I rec'd yesterday. Boxes of 20 for a little less than regular Hornady, boxes of 60 or 75, the ammo box with 247 .223 for $129.99; $10 cheaper than SW.
Even American Gunner 12ga OO Buck at $6.79 for 10.
But no Grendel.
Edit: And there is a new 123g ELD-X loading in a Precision Hunter box. $19.69/20.
I'd love it if they'd sell the AG Grendel in smaller boxes so I wouldn't have to spend $150 at once. Like $75/100.